Rhyno card interactions

Started by LilPimpin, August 17, 2023, 06:39:23 AM

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Will Rhyno's ability pick up Rhyno's spinebuster from arsenal when manbeast of NXT is in backstage?
Is the 'As a maneuver...' on Rhyno Spinebuster only relevant when being played? Does this make the interaction different from something like Standing drop kick TB (when you have lower Fortitude)? Thanks in advance.

Starting Hand Size: 7     Superstar Value: 1
Superstar Ability: Your Foreign Object cards do not have the Raw logo. Once during each of your turns, you may reveal cards from the top of your Arsenal until you reveal a Foreign Object. Put that card into your hand and the rest into your Ringside pile.

The Manbeast of NXT
Backstage Card
When packing this card, you can pack From NXT to WWE, but you cannot pack non-Superstar-specific printed Foreign Objects.
Your F:5- maneuvers without 'can only be reversed' in the text are considered F:0 and Foreign Objects for your other Rhyno-specific cards and effects.
During any turn when you successfully play a maneuver with printed Stun Value, choose one: Promo: 2, put up to 1 non-reversal card from Ringside on the bottom of your Arsenal, or remove 1 card in your opponent's Ringside from the game.
Unique     RMS     NXT

Rhyno's Spinebuster
Grapple / Reversal: Special
As a maneuver, this card is -20F, and when you have 10+ lower Fortitude, can be played from Ringside.
As a reversal, reverse any Grapple or Action; when this card reverses from Arsenal, you may put it into your Ring.
F: 20     D: 8     SV: 1     Unique

Standing Drop Kick
This card is -3F when your Fortitude Rating is less than your opponent's Fortitude Rating.
When successfully played, your opponent discards 3 cards.
F: 8      D: 8
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Fortitude reduction (or increasing) is only relevant when a card is being played, so neither of these will be eligible for Rhyno's ability.


Quote from: Hogtrail on August 17, 2023, 09:14:20 AMFortitude reduction (or increasing) is only relevant when a card is being played, so neither of these will be eligible for Rhyno's ability.

While this is 100% correct, there's a related corner case worth bearing in mind. Effects that set an exact Fortitude value, rather than modifying it, are effective in all areas (Goldberg's Spear and Jackhammer being F: 0, for example); effects that raise or lower Fortitude happen at a specific point in the Timing Breakdown. The latter is far more common, but once in a while you will find the former instead.
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