The issue is not that he goes full chain or full heat or full volley. It's more so the option to play bits of support for each, and for tech/dynamic. Once Matt Striker is in play he basically has no cost to use his ability, and if Tech Shoot is in ring he can make his opponent discard for a successful or a reversed maneuver. It's easy to say well no deck can rely on low F actions, but theres more than enough actions in a deck full of hybrids to bait out those reversals, or more than enough chain help to kill their hand before trying to play actions. I'm really excited to play it but I can see why players would see this as being OP. If it's been play tested properly against the types of decks Keith brought up I'm happy to see it out in the real world, but I can see the concerns of power creep
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#2
Virtual Raw Deal / Dean Malenko ability discrepancy
May 03, 2018, 03:43:53 AM
The text to remove 4 psychology cards is missing from the Virtual set list thread, but is present in Lackey and on VelaCards
Which of these is correct, and can we get it updated?
EDIT: the .pdf and .doc files for break down the walls also have the remove 4 text
Which of these is correct, and can we get it updated?
EDIT: the .pdf and .doc files for break down the walls also have the remove 4 text
#3
Tournament Reports / Raw Deal Scotland - 29th April 2018
May 02, 2018, 05:39:14 AM
Tournament Report: Raw Deal Scotland 29/04/18 - Backlash
Format: Virtual Classic up to V3
4 Rounds Swiss (50 min time limit) + Top X Cut to title matches
Players and Superstars used:
Titan – Kurt Angle
JAM – Legion of Doom
Ally – Gail Kim
Mike – Nikki Bella
Richie – The Great Khali
Newlands – JeriShow
Richard – Babe Of The Year
Dave – New Age Outlaws
Current Champions
CAIRDS World Champion – Newlands – JeriShow
Intercontinental Champion – Joe – Dean Malenko (Absent)
European Champion – Dave – New Age Outlaws
NOTE: If any player defeats a current champion during Swiss Rounds they will receive a credit towards a MITB style cash-in on that championship
Results from Swiss
Round 1
Dave 2-0 Titan Mike 0-2 Richie
Richard 0-2 Ben Newlands 2-0 Ally
JAM 2-BYE
Round 2
Richie 2-0 Ben Newlands 0-2 Dave
Richard 0-2 JAM Titan 2-0 Mike
Ally 2-BYE
Round 3
Dave 0-2 Richie JAM 2-0 Titan
Newlands 2-0 Ben Ally 2-0 Mike
Richard 2-BYE
Round 4
JAM 0-2 Richie Ally 0-2 Dave
Richard 0-2 Newlands Ben 0-2 Titan
Mike 2-BYE
Final Standings after Swiss
Richie 8
Dave 6
Newlands 6
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JAM 6
Titan 4
Ally 4
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Ben 2
Mike 2
Richard 2
Credits:
World: Dave By Pinfall, Dave by league performance as EU champion
Intercontinental: Dave by league performance as EU champion
European: Richie by pinfall
NOTE: Our title matches are determined by the current champions finishing position and worked down from top to bottom, if any champion finishes higher than his bracket, they will get a credit towards a MITB style cash-in for the title of the bracket they finish in. If any champion finishes at the bottom or below their bracket they will compete in a triple threat or fatal four way for their title. If there are 2 or more players not involved in title matches they will compete in a one fall Battle Royale where the winner receives a credit towards a title determined by the number of players in the match
Title matches
CAIRDS World Championship
Newlands pins Ben, who cashed in his title shot, in a triple threat with Richie to retain.
Titan cashed in his Money In The Bank briefcase against the wounded champion and defeated him for the championship – New World Champion
Intercontinental Championship
Richard pins Ally in a fatal four way with Titan and JAM to win the vacated belt – New Intercontinental Champion
European Championship
Dave pins Mike to retain
Credit Battle Royale
WAS NOT PLAYED
Statistics for title reigns, cash-ins and credits, rosters, and player records can be found at www.facebook.com/groups/RawDealScotland
Please contact me, Liam Noble on facebook messenger, redyellowedge on TCO or Titan in the TCO Discord for access to this group
NOTE:
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts: -Only 3 players (our champions) are permitted to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) -During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck -During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
Format: Virtual Classic up to V3
4 Rounds Swiss (50 min time limit) + Top X Cut to title matches
Players and Superstars used:
Titan – Kurt Angle
JAM – Legion of Doom
Ally – Gail Kim
Mike – Nikki Bella
Richie – The Great Khali
Newlands – JeriShow
Richard – Babe Of The Year
Dave – New Age Outlaws
Current Champions
CAIRDS World Champion – Newlands – JeriShow
Intercontinental Champion – Joe – Dean Malenko (Absent)
European Champion – Dave – New Age Outlaws
NOTE: If any player defeats a current champion during Swiss Rounds they will receive a credit towards a MITB style cash-in on that championship
Results from Swiss
Round 1
Dave 2-0 Titan Mike 0-2 Richie
Richard 0-2 Ben Newlands 2-0 Ally
JAM 2-BYE
Round 2
Richie 2-0 Ben Newlands 0-2 Dave
Richard 0-2 JAM Titan 2-0 Mike
Ally 2-BYE
Round 3
Dave 0-2 Richie JAM 2-0 Titan
Newlands 2-0 Ben Ally 2-0 Mike
Richard 2-BYE
Round 4
JAM 0-2 Richie Ally 0-2 Dave
Richard 0-2 Newlands Ben 0-2 Titan
Mike 2-BYE
Final Standings after Swiss
Richie 8
Dave 6
Newlands 6
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JAM 6
Titan 4
Ally 4
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Ben 2
Mike 2
Richard 2
Credits:
World: Dave By Pinfall, Dave by league performance as EU champion
Intercontinental: Dave by league performance as EU champion
European: Richie by pinfall
NOTE: Our title matches are determined by the current champions finishing position and worked down from top to bottom, if any champion finishes higher than his bracket, they will get a credit towards a MITB style cash-in for the title of the bracket they finish in. If any champion finishes at the bottom or below their bracket they will compete in a triple threat or fatal four way for their title. If there are 2 or more players not involved in title matches they will compete in a one fall Battle Royale where the winner receives a credit towards a title determined by the number of players in the match
Title matches
CAIRDS World Championship
Newlands pins Ben, who cashed in his title shot, in a triple threat with Richie to retain.
Titan cashed in his Money In The Bank briefcase against the wounded champion and defeated him for the championship – New World Champion
Intercontinental Championship
Richard pins Ally in a fatal four way with Titan and JAM to win the vacated belt – New Intercontinental Champion
European Championship
Dave pins Mike to retain
Credit Battle Royale
WAS NOT PLAYED
Statistics for title reigns, cash-ins and credits, rosters, and player records can be found at www.facebook.com/groups/RawDealScotland
Please contact me, Liam Noble on facebook messenger, redyellowedge on TCO or Titan in the TCO Discord for access to this group
NOTE:
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts: -Only 3 players (our champions) are permitted to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) -During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck -During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
#4
Tournament Announcements / Raw Deal Scotland - 29th April 2018
April 20, 2018, 04:29:36 AM
**DISCLAIMER**
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are allowed to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics)
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for card effects
Format is Virtual Classic up to Virtual 3
There will be 4 rounds of Swiss followed by Title matches, each round is 45 min w/5 min overtime, Title matches have a strict 11pm cutoff
Title matches can be up to 4 players, depending on where the champions finish in the standings from Swiss
Date: 29th April 2018, 6pm registration for 6.30 start. 11PM finish
Location:
Fraserburgh West End Bowling Club
Fraserburgh
Aberdeenshire
AB43 9JT
Contact:
Liam Noble
Message me on TCO, or Titan in the TCO Discord
Join our fb Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawdealscotland
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are allowed to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics)
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for card effects
Format is Virtual Classic up to Virtual 3
There will be 4 rounds of Swiss followed by Title matches, each round is 45 min w/5 min overtime, Title matches have a strict 11pm cutoff
Title matches can be up to 4 players, depending on where the champions finish in the standings from Swiss
Date: 29th April 2018, 6pm registration for 6.30 start. 11PM finish
Location:
Fraserburgh West End Bowling Club
Fraserburgh
Aberdeenshire
AB43 9JT
Contact:
Liam Noble
Message me on TCO, or Titan in the TCO Discord
Join our fb Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawdealscotland
#5
Rules Forum / Re: First to tap out in multiplayer
December 06, 2017, 10:46:03 AM
As Creed says, there are no official multiplayer rules. This depends on what your playgroup wants to do, if a player pinning someone by conventional means (i.e. no cards left in arsenal) would end the game, then so would successful use of FTTOM. If it's a last man standing, then I'd treat it as eliminating the player who had maintain played against them.
#6
Rules Forum / Re: Paul Heyman + Sgt. Slaughter
October 30, 2017, 01:08:52 PM
Yeah sorry, I should have made that clear,
Follow up question, does this mean each player on a team may play their own fifth anniversary, and their own enough shenanigans etc or are these one per team?
Follow up question, does this mean each player on a team may play their own fifth anniversary, and their own enough shenanigans etc or are these one per team?
#7
Rules Forum / Paul Heyman + Sgt. Slaughter
October 26, 2017, 05:53:59 AM
If Paul Heyman teams with Sgt. Slaughter (Or any other superstar with a SS Stipulation) can they pack Boot Camp Match in their shared backstage area and put it into play with Heyman's ability?
#8
Tournament Reports / Raw Deal Scotland - 22nd October 2017
October 25, 2017, 07:00:52 AM
Tournament Report: Raw Deal Scotland 22nd October 2017
Format: Virtual Classic up to V1
3 Rounds Swiss (1 hr time limit) + Top X Cut to title matches
Players and Superstars used:
Titan – Cryme Tyme
Dave – Mr. Perfect
Richard – Rhyno
Richie – Mankind
Ben – Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
Joe – 3 Minute Warning
Newlands – Matt Hardy (Joined Rd. 2)
Current Champions
CAIRDS World Champion – Dave – Mr. Perfect
Intercontinental Champion – Titan – Cryme Tyme
European Champion – Ally – FBI (Absent)
NOTE: If any player defeats a current champion during Swiss Rounds they will receive a credit towards a MITB style cash-in on that championship
The Champions listed above do not correlate with our last event report, this is due to a special event that occurred between our two latest standard league night events.
Results from Swiss
Round 1
Richard 0-3Richie Ben 0-0 Dave
Titan 2-0 Joe
Round 2
Richard 0-3 Joe Ben 0-0 Newlands
Richie 3-0 Titan Dave 2- BYE
Round 3
Richie 0-2 Joe Dave 2-0 Titan
Richard 0-2 Newlands Ben 2- BYE
Final Standings after Swiss
Richie 6
Joe 5
Dave 4
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Titan 2
Ben 2
Newlands 2
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Richard 0
Credits:
Richie IC Credit by pinfall
Dave IC Credit by pinfall
NOTE: Our title matches are determined by the current champions finishing position and worked down from top to bottom, if any champion finishes higher than his bracket, they will get a credit towards a MITB style cash-in for the title of the bracket they finish in. If any champion finishes at the bottom or below their bracket they may compete in a triple threat or fatal four way for their title. If there are 2 or more players not involved in title matches they will compete in a one fall Battle Royale where the winner receives a credit towards a title determined by the number of players in the match
Title matches
CAIRDS World Championship
Dave retains by pinfall victory
Intercontinental Championship
Joe wins by pinfall victory – new champion
European Championship
Richard and Ben Count out against Newlands, since the champion is absent the title changes hands through Count out – new champion
Credit Battle Royale
Statistics for title reigns, cash-ins and credits, rosters, and player records can be found at www.facebook.com/groups/RawDealScotland
Please contact me, Liam Noble on facebook messenger, or redyellowedge on TCO for access to this group
NOTE:
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are permitted to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
Format: Virtual Classic up to V1
3 Rounds Swiss (1 hr time limit) + Top X Cut to title matches
Players and Superstars used:
Titan – Cryme Tyme
Dave – Mr. Perfect
Richard – Rhyno
Richie – Mankind
Ben – Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
Joe – 3 Minute Warning
Newlands – Matt Hardy (Joined Rd. 2)
Current Champions
CAIRDS World Champion – Dave – Mr. Perfect
Intercontinental Champion – Titan – Cryme Tyme
European Champion – Ally – FBI (Absent)
NOTE: If any player defeats a current champion during Swiss Rounds they will receive a credit towards a MITB style cash-in on that championship
The Champions listed above do not correlate with our last event report, this is due to a special event that occurred between our two latest standard league night events.
Results from Swiss
Round 1
Richard 0-3Richie Ben 0-0 Dave
Titan 2-0 Joe
Round 2
Richard 0-3 Joe Ben 0-0 Newlands
Richie 3-0 Titan Dave 2- BYE
Round 3
Richie 0-2 Joe Dave 2-0 Titan
Richard 0-2 Newlands Ben 2- BYE
Final Standings after Swiss
Richie 6
Joe 5
Dave 4
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Titan 2
Ben 2
Newlands 2
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Richard 0
Credits:
Richie IC Credit by pinfall
Dave IC Credit by pinfall
NOTE: Our title matches are determined by the current champions finishing position and worked down from top to bottom, if any champion finishes higher than his bracket, they will get a credit towards a MITB style cash-in for the title of the bracket they finish in. If any champion finishes at the bottom or below their bracket they may compete in a triple threat or fatal four way for their title. If there are 2 or more players not involved in title matches they will compete in a one fall Battle Royale where the winner receives a credit towards a title determined by the number of players in the match
Title matches
CAIRDS World Championship
Dave retains by pinfall victory
Intercontinental Championship
Joe wins by pinfall victory – new champion
European Championship
Richard and Ben Count out against Newlands, since the champion is absent the title changes hands through Count out – new champion
Credit Battle Royale
Statistics for title reigns, cash-ins and credits, rosters, and player records can be found at www.facebook.com/groups/RawDealScotland
Please contact me, Liam Noble on facebook messenger, or redyellowedge on TCO for access to this group
NOTE:
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are permitted to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
#9
Tournament Announcements / Raw Deal Scotland - 22nd October 2017
October 20, 2017, 10:30:31 AM
Short Notice Announcement on this one, forgot we had this date booked!
**DISCLAIMER**
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are allowed to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
Format is Virtual Classic up to Virtual 1
There will be 4 rounds of Swiss followed by Title matches, each round is 40 min w/5 min overtime, Title matches have a strict 11pm cutoff
Title matches can be up to 4 players, depending on where the champions finish in the standings from Swiss
The 2 top players will qualify for our main event Elimination Chamber match at our next meeting, along with the 2 top players from our last meeting, the CAIRDS champion and one wildcard spot.
Date: 22nd October 2017, 6pm registration for 6.30 start. 11PM finish
Location:
Fraserburgh West End Bowling Club
Fraserburgh
Aberdeenshire
AB43 9JT
Contact:
Liam Noble
Message me on TCO
Join our fb Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawdealscotland
**DISCLAIMER**
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are allowed to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
Format is Virtual Classic up to Virtual 1
There will be 4 rounds of Swiss followed by Title matches, each round is 40 min w/5 min overtime, Title matches have a strict 11pm cutoff
Title matches can be up to 4 players, depending on where the champions finish in the standings from Swiss
The 2 top players will qualify for our main event Elimination Chamber match at our next meeting, along with the 2 top players from our last meeting, the CAIRDS champion and one wildcard spot.
Date: 22nd October 2017, 6pm registration for 6.30 start. 11PM finish
Location:
Fraserburgh West End Bowling Club
Fraserburgh
Aberdeenshire
AB43 9JT
Contact:
Liam Noble
Message me on TCO
Join our fb Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawdealscotland
#10
Tournament Reports / Re: Raw Deal Scotland - 17th September 2017
October 05, 2017, 07:07:46 AM
Little Bonus: Heres the 2nd Place, World Championship winning deck:
Mike Forman: Four Horsemen – FF/Cheater/Face/Heel/Raw
Backstage:
WWE Raw Deal 5th Anniversary
Enough Shenanigans!
The Numbers Game
Backstage Signature
WWE Signing Appearance
Backlash
Prematch:
That's Value!
Handicap Match
Managed by "The Mouth of the South" Jimmy Hart
Product Endorsements TB
Find Out How to Fight from Finlay
Taunted by the Chanting Fans
Through All of These Years
Wrestlemania
Tear You Down Like a Minnesota Wrecking Crew
Let's Get It On
Midmatch:
Actions (1)
The Stylin' Strut
Reversals (9)
Classic Teamwork
Shoot Counter
When You Thought You Had All the Answers...
Unscrupulous S.O.B
Backlash
Restricted Use In This Area
This Is Going to be an Old School Brawl!
The King Interferes
Outside Interference
Maneuvers (20)
6x Technical Dropkick
3x Straight Clothesline
2x Shoot Forearm
2x Kidney Punch
Blindside Hook
Maneuver of Doom
Hung Out to Dry, Horsemen Style
Arn's Abdominal Stretch
Flairs Famous Figure Four
Dynamic Finisher
The Finisher
Reversals (27)
3x A Revolution of the Mind
3x Manager Interferes
3x Sloppy... Very Sloppy
3x Get the "F" Out!
2x Once is Enough
2x Elbow to the Face
2x Quick Reflexes
2x Unexpected Turn of Events
2x Volley This!
Sidewalk Slam
Total Teamwork
In My Day, a Maneuver was a Maneuver
Cowboy Bob Orton Interferes
Divine Intervention
Actions: (13)
3x Charismatic Style TB
3x Drawing Extra Heat TB
2x Did I Just Say... Three Minutes? TB
2x Comeback! TB
2x Shoot Action
The Best Thing Going Today
Deck overview: with the option to pack face and heel, fan favorite, cheater as well as being a legend, a stable and a tag team a lot of cards are open to you and while there are some obvious choices: Sloppy, Manager, Handicap, both Teamworks, Jimmy Hart, All These Years, In My Day and Cowboy; there are a lot of difficult decisions when it comes to paring it down to 60 cards
That's Value is much more versatile with the ability to pack any card on it, so the 10 cards are there to thin the deck out (along with the tech kicks to search themselves) so that you have a good reversal base and always have something to play. The 3 Minutes take advantage of Let's Get it On.
The Figure Four is mainly only played when it can't be reversed, a Dirty Low Blow might be added for this purpose.
With the card pool being so wide, there's no room for Carlito or Great to be Back; but a lot of these cases are handled by Old School Brawl and the Unique reversals. the capacity of the deck also led to going with 2 Once is Enough, and 3 GTFO, chosen this way because of GTFO's versatility.
The kidney punches are only in the arsenal to remove Wrestlemania, which works with the value modification in the backstage and prematch (Sig, Appearance, Endorsements)
The 2 cards in the deck that didn't see any use were Wrecking Crew, which was played every match but the effect never used, and Best Thing Going which wasn't played, but is still worth packing.
Mike Forman: Four Horsemen – FF/Cheater/Face/Heel/Raw
Backstage:
WWE Raw Deal 5th Anniversary
Enough Shenanigans!
The Numbers Game
Backstage Signature
WWE Signing Appearance
Backlash
Prematch:
That's Value!
Handicap Match
Managed by "The Mouth of the South" Jimmy Hart
Product Endorsements TB
Find Out How to Fight from Finlay
Taunted by the Chanting Fans
Through All of These Years
Wrestlemania
Tear You Down Like a Minnesota Wrecking Crew
Let's Get It On
Midmatch:
Actions (1)
The Stylin' Strut
Reversals (9)
Classic Teamwork
Shoot Counter
When You Thought You Had All the Answers...
Unscrupulous S.O.B
Backlash
Restricted Use In This Area
This Is Going to be an Old School Brawl!
The King Interferes
Outside Interference
Maneuvers (20)
6x Technical Dropkick
3x Straight Clothesline
2x Shoot Forearm
2x Kidney Punch
Blindside Hook
Maneuver of Doom
Hung Out to Dry, Horsemen Style
Arn's Abdominal Stretch
Flairs Famous Figure Four
Dynamic Finisher
The Finisher
Reversals (27)
3x A Revolution of the Mind
3x Manager Interferes
3x Sloppy... Very Sloppy
3x Get the "F" Out!
2x Once is Enough
2x Elbow to the Face
2x Quick Reflexes
2x Unexpected Turn of Events
2x Volley This!
Sidewalk Slam
Total Teamwork
In My Day, a Maneuver was a Maneuver
Cowboy Bob Orton Interferes
Divine Intervention
Actions: (13)
3x Charismatic Style TB
3x Drawing Extra Heat TB
2x Did I Just Say... Three Minutes? TB
2x Comeback! TB
2x Shoot Action
The Best Thing Going Today
Deck overview: with the option to pack face and heel, fan favorite, cheater as well as being a legend, a stable and a tag team a lot of cards are open to you and while there are some obvious choices: Sloppy, Manager, Handicap, both Teamworks, Jimmy Hart, All These Years, In My Day and Cowboy; there are a lot of difficult decisions when it comes to paring it down to 60 cards
That's Value is much more versatile with the ability to pack any card on it, so the 10 cards are there to thin the deck out (along with the tech kicks to search themselves) so that you have a good reversal base and always have something to play. The 3 Minutes take advantage of Let's Get it On.
The Figure Four is mainly only played when it can't be reversed, a Dirty Low Blow might be added for this purpose.
With the card pool being so wide, there's no room for Carlito or Great to be Back; but a lot of these cases are handled by Old School Brawl and the Unique reversals. the capacity of the deck also led to going with 2 Once is Enough, and 3 GTFO, chosen this way because of GTFO's versatility.
The kidney punches are only in the arsenal to remove Wrestlemania, which works with the value modification in the backstage and prematch (Sig, Appearance, Endorsements)
The 2 cards in the deck that didn't see any use were Wrecking Crew, which was played every match but the effect never used, and Best Thing Going which wasn't played, but is still worth packing.
#11
Tournament Reports / Raw Deal Scotland - 17th September 2017
October 05, 2017, 07:04:33 AM
Tournament Report: Raw Deal Scotland 09th September 2017
Format: Virtual Classic up to V1
Rounds Swiss (50 min time limit) + Top X Cut to title matches
Players and Superstars used:
Joe – Mr. Pay-Per-View Ben – Chavo Guerrero
Richie – Chris Masters Dave – Mr. Perfect
Mike – 4 Horsemen Ally – FBI
Newlands – Rikishi Richard – Christy
Titan – The Future of Sports Entertainment
Current Champions
CAIRDS World Champion – Richard (Christy)
Intercontinental Champion – Joe (Mr. PPV)
European Champion – Ally (FBI)
NOTE: If any player defeats a current champion during Swiss Rounds they will receive a credit towards a MITB style cash-in on that championship
Results from Swiss
Round 1
Joe 2-0 Ben Richie 0-2 Dave
Mike 1-0 Ally Newlands 0-3 Richard
Titan 2- BYE
Round 2
Richard 3-0 Joe Dave 0-0 Mike
Newlands 0-3 Richie Ben 3-0 Titan
Ally 2-BYE
Round 3
Richard 0-2 Mike Dave 3-0 Joe
Richie 3-0 Ben Ally 2-0 Titan
Newlands 2- BYE
Round 4
Mike 3-0 Richie Dave 3-0 Richard
Titan 0-3 Newlands Joe 2-0 Ally
Ben 2-BYE
Final Standings after Swiss
Dave 8
Mike 6
Richie 6
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Richard 6
Newlands 5
Ben 5
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Joe 4
Ally 4
Titan 2
Credits:
Dave – World Credit by pinfall, IC Credit by pinfall
Mike – World Credit by pinfall
Richard – IC Credit by pinfall
Joe – EU Credit by pinfall
NOTE: Our title matches are determined by the current champions finishing position and worked down from top to bottom, if any champion finishes higher than his bracket, they will get a credit towards a MITB style cash-in for the title of the bracket they finish in. If any champion finishes at the bottom or below their bracket they will compete in a triple threat or fatal four way for their title. If there are 2 or more players not involved in title matches they will compete in a one fall Battle Royale where the winner receives a credit towards a title determined by the number of players in the match
Title matches
CAIRDS World Championship
Richard v Dave v Mike – Mike wins by pinfall, new champion
Intercontinental Championship
Joe v Richie v Newlands – Newlands wins by pinfall, new champion
European Championship
Ally v Ben – Ally wins by pinfall, champion retains
Credit Battle Royale
Statistics for title reigns, cash-ins and credits, rosters, and player records can be found at www.facebook.com/groups/RawDealScotland
Please contact me, Liam Noble on facebook messenger, or redyellowedge on TCO for access to this group
NOTE:
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are permitted to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
Format: Virtual Classic up to V1
Rounds Swiss (50 min time limit) + Top X Cut to title matches
Players and Superstars used:
Joe – Mr. Pay-Per-View Ben – Chavo Guerrero
Richie – Chris Masters Dave – Mr. Perfect
Mike – 4 Horsemen Ally – FBI
Newlands – Rikishi Richard – Christy
Titan – The Future of Sports Entertainment
Current Champions
CAIRDS World Champion – Richard (Christy)
Intercontinental Champion – Joe (Mr. PPV)
European Champion – Ally (FBI)
NOTE: If any player defeats a current champion during Swiss Rounds they will receive a credit towards a MITB style cash-in on that championship
Results from Swiss
Round 1
Joe 2-0 Ben Richie 0-2 Dave
Mike 1-0 Ally Newlands 0-3 Richard
Titan 2- BYE
Round 2
Richard 3-0 Joe Dave 0-0 Mike
Newlands 0-3 Richie Ben 3-0 Titan
Ally 2-BYE
Round 3
Richard 0-2 Mike Dave 3-0 Joe
Richie 3-0 Ben Ally 2-0 Titan
Newlands 2- BYE
Round 4
Mike 3-0 Richie Dave 3-0 Richard
Titan 0-3 Newlands Joe 2-0 Ally
Ben 2-BYE
Final Standings after Swiss
Dave 8
Mike 6
Richie 6
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Richard 6
Newlands 5
Ben 5
----------------------
Joe 4
Ally 4
Titan 2
Credits:
Dave – World Credit by pinfall, IC Credit by pinfall
Mike – World Credit by pinfall
Richard – IC Credit by pinfall
Joe – EU Credit by pinfall
NOTE: Our title matches are determined by the current champions finishing position and worked down from top to bottom, if any champion finishes higher than his bracket, they will get a credit towards a MITB style cash-in for the title of the bracket they finish in. If any champion finishes at the bottom or below their bracket they will compete in a triple threat or fatal four way for their title. If there are 2 or more players not involved in title matches they will compete in a one fall Battle Royale where the winner receives a credit towards a title determined by the number of players in the match
Title matches
CAIRDS World Championship
Richard v Dave v Mike – Mike wins by pinfall, new champion
Intercontinental Championship
Joe v Richie v Newlands – Newlands wins by pinfall, new champion
European Championship
Ally v Ben – Ally wins by pinfall, champion retains
Credit Battle Royale
Statistics for title reigns, cash-ins and credits, rosters, and player records can be found at www.facebook.com/groups/RawDealScotland
Please contact me, Liam Noble on facebook messenger, or redyellowedge on TCO for access to this group
NOTE:
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are permitted to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
#12
Tournament Announcements / Raw Deal Scotland - 17th September 2017 - Unforgiven
August 31, 2017, 03:01:00 PM
**DISCLAIMER**
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are allowed to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
Format is Virtual Classic up to Virtual 1
There will be 4 rounds of Swiss followed by Title matches, each round is 40 min w/5 min overtime, Title matches have a strict 11pm cutoff
Title matches can be up to 4 players, depending on where the champions finish in the standings from Swiss
The 2 top players will qualify for our main event Elimination Chamber match at our next meeting, along with the 2 top players from our last meeting, the CAIRDS champion and one wildcard spot.
Date: 27th 2017, 6pm registration for 6.30 start
Location:
Fraserburgh West End Bowling Club
Fraserburgh
Aberdeenshire
AB43 9JT
Contact:
Liam Noble
Message me on TCO
Join our fb Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawdealscotland
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are allowed to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
Format is Virtual Classic up to Virtual 1
There will be 4 rounds of Swiss followed by Title matches, each round is 40 min w/5 min overtime, Title matches have a strict 11pm cutoff
Title matches can be up to 4 players, depending on where the champions finish in the standings from Swiss
The 2 top players will qualify for our main event Elimination Chamber match at our next meeting, along with the 2 top players from our last meeting, the CAIRDS champion and one wildcard spot.
Date: 27th 2017, 6pm registration for 6.30 start
Location:
Fraserburgh West End Bowling Club
Fraserburgh
Aberdeenshire
AB43 9JT
Contact:
Liam Noble
Message me on TCO
Join our fb Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawdealscotland
#13
Tournament Reports / Raw Deal Scotland - 27th August 2017
August 31, 2017, 02:52:53 PM
Tournament Report: Raw Deal Scotland 27th August 2017 - Summerslam
Format: Virtual Classic up to V1
Rounds Swiss (50 min time limit) + Top X Cut to title matches
Players and Superstars used:
Newlands – The Crippler Joe – Mr. Pay Per View
Titan – X Pac Ally – 3 Minute Warning
Ben – Dwayne Johnson Richie – Sgt Slaughter
Richard – Christy Mike – Johnny Nitro
Current Champions
CAIRDS World Champion – Richard (Christy)
Intercontinental Champion – Joe (Mr. PPV)
European Champion – Jam (Big Freakin' Machine, Absent)
NOTE: If any player defeats a current champion during Swiss Rounds they will receive a credit towards a MITB style cash-in on that championship
Results from Swiss
Round 1
Newlands 3-0 Joe Titan 0-0 Ally
Ben 2-0 Richie Richard 3-0 Mike
Round 2
Richard 2-0 Newlands Ben 3-0 Ally
Joe 2-0 Richie Mike 2-0 Titan
Round 3
Richard 1-0 Ben Joe 3-0 Ally
Mike 3-0 Newlands Titan 3-0 Richie
Round 4
Richard 0-2 Joe Ben 3-0 Mike
Newlands 2-0 Titan Ally 2-0 Richie
Final Standings after Swiss
Ben 8
Joe 7
Richard 6
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Mike 5
Newlands 5
Titan 3
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Ally 2
Richie 0
Credits:
Joe – 2 World Credits, Champion pin, and World bracket finish
Newlands – 1 IC Credit, Champion pin
NOTE: Our title matches are determined by the current champions finishing position and worked down from top to bottom, if any champion finishes higher than his bracket, they will get a credit towards a MITB style cash-in for the title of the bracket they finish in. If any champion finishes at the bottom or below their bracket they will compete in a triple threat or fatal four way for their title. If there are 2 or more players not involved in title matches they will compete in a one fall Battle Royale where the winner receives a credit towards a title determined by the number of players in the match
Title matches
CAIRDS World Championship
Richard vs Ben vs Mike – Richard wins by Pinfall on Mike, after Ben counts out
Intercontinental Championship
Joe vs Newlands – Joe wins by Pinfall
European Championship
Titan vs Ally vs Richie Ally wins by Pinfall against Titan
Credit Battle Royale
No Contenders
Statistics for title reigns, cash-ins and credits, rosters, and player records can be found at www.facebook.com/groups/RawDealScotland
Please contact me, Liam Noble on facebook messenger, or redyellowedge on TCO for access to this group
NOTE:
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are permitted to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
Format: Virtual Classic up to V1
Rounds Swiss (50 min time limit) + Top X Cut to title matches
Players and Superstars used:
Newlands – The Crippler Joe – Mr. Pay Per View
Titan – X Pac Ally – 3 Minute Warning
Ben – Dwayne Johnson Richie – Sgt Slaughter
Richard – Christy Mike – Johnny Nitro
Current Champions
CAIRDS World Champion – Richard (Christy)
Intercontinental Champion – Joe (Mr. PPV)
European Champion – Jam (Big Freakin' Machine, Absent)
NOTE: If any player defeats a current champion during Swiss Rounds they will receive a credit towards a MITB style cash-in on that championship
Results from Swiss
Round 1
Newlands 3-0 Joe Titan 0-0 Ally
Ben 2-0 Richie Richard 3-0 Mike
Round 2
Richard 2-0 Newlands Ben 3-0 Ally
Joe 2-0 Richie Mike 2-0 Titan
Round 3
Richard 1-0 Ben Joe 3-0 Ally
Mike 3-0 Newlands Titan 3-0 Richie
Round 4
Richard 0-2 Joe Ben 3-0 Mike
Newlands 2-0 Titan Ally 2-0 Richie
Final Standings after Swiss
Ben 8
Joe 7
Richard 6
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Mike 5
Newlands 5
Titan 3
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Ally 2
Richie 0
Credits:
Joe – 2 World Credits, Champion pin, and World bracket finish
Newlands – 1 IC Credit, Champion pin
NOTE: Our title matches are determined by the current champions finishing position and worked down from top to bottom, if any champion finishes higher than his bracket, they will get a credit towards a MITB style cash-in for the title of the bracket they finish in. If any champion finishes at the bottom or below their bracket they will compete in a triple threat or fatal four way for their title. If there are 2 or more players not involved in title matches they will compete in a one fall Battle Royale where the winner receives a credit towards a title determined by the number of players in the match
Title matches
CAIRDS World Championship
Richard vs Ben vs Mike – Richard wins by Pinfall on Mike, after Ben counts out
Intercontinental Championship
Joe vs Newlands – Joe wins by Pinfall
European Championship
Titan vs Ally vs Richie Ally wins by Pinfall against Titan
Credit Battle Royale
No Contenders
Statistics for title reigns, cash-ins and credits, rosters, and player records can be found at www.facebook.com/groups/RawDealScotland
Please contact me, Liam Noble on facebook messenger, or redyellowedge on TCO for access to this group
NOTE:
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are permitted to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
#14
Tournament Reports / Re: Raw Deal Scotland - 13th August 2017
August 31, 2017, 02:49:32 PM
I'll get back to you with it ASAP
#15
Tournament Announcements / Raw Deal Scotland - 27th August 2017
August 25, 2017, 05:13:14 AM
**DISCLAIMER**
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are allowed to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
Format is Virtual Classic up to Virtual 1
There will be 4 rounds of Swiss followed by Title matches, each round is 40 min w/5 min overtime, Title matches have a strict 11pm cutoff
Title matches can be up to 4 players, depending on where the champions finish in the standings from Swiss
Date: 27th 2017, 6pm registration for 6.30 start
Location:
Fraserburgh West End Bowling Club
Fraserburgh
Aberdeenshire
AB43 9JT
Contact:
Liam Noble
Message me on TCO
Join our fb Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawdealscotland
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are allowed to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
Format is Virtual Classic up to Virtual 1
There will be 4 rounds of Swiss followed by Title matches, each round is 40 min w/5 min overtime, Title matches have a strict 11pm cutoff
Title matches can be up to 4 players, depending on where the champions finish in the standings from Swiss
Date: 27th 2017, 6pm registration for 6.30 start
Location:
Fraserburgh West End Bowling Club
Fraserburgh
Aberdeenshire
AB43 9JT
Contact:
Liam Noble
Message me on TCO
Join our fb Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawdealscotland
#16
Tournament Reports / Raw Deal Scotland - 13th August 2017
August 16, 2017, 12:06:01 PM
Hi, I forgot to post a report for our last meeting, and forgot an announcement for this one, nonetheless here is the report of our most recent meeting.
Tournament Report: Raw Deal Scotland 13 August 2017
Format: Virtual Classic up to V1
3 Rounds Swiss (50 min time limit) + Top X Cut to title matches
Players and Superstars used:
Titan – X-Pac Richard – Christy
Newlands – Triple H Joe – Mr. PPV
Ben – Dwayne Johnson Mike – Mickie James
Sheepy – Big Freak'n Machine
Current Champions
CAIRDS World Champion – Richard
Intercontinental Champion – Vacant
European Champion – Jam (defended by proxy by Sheepy)
NOTE: If any player defeats a current champion during Swiss Rounds they will receive a credit towards a MITB style cash-in on that championship
Results from Swiss
Round 1
Mike 0-0 Titan Joe 0-3 Newlands
Ben 2-0 Richard Sheepy 0 (Absent)
Round 2
Ben 2-0 Newlands Sheepy 0-3 Mike
Joe 2-0 Richard Titan 2 (Bye)
Round 3
Newlands 2-0 Sheepy Joe 0-2 Titan
Ben 0-0 Mike Richard 2 (Bye)
Final Standings after Swiss
Newlands 5
Ben 4
Titan 4
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Mike 3
Joe 2
Richard 2
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Sheepy 0
Credits:
Ben – World, pin
Joe – World, pin
Mike – EU, pin
Newlands – EU, pin
NOTE: Our title matches are determined by the current champions finishing position and worked down from top to bottom, if any champion finishes higher than his bracket, they will get a credit towards a MITB style cash-in for the title of the bracket they finish in. If any champion finishes at the bottom or below their bracket they will compete in a triple threat or fatal four way for their title. If there are 2 or more players not involved in title matches they will compete in a one fall Battle Royale where the winner receives a credit towards a title determined by the number of players in the match
Title matches
CAIRDS World Championship
Richard vs Ben vs Newlands vs Titan
Result: Richard Pins Ben
Intercontinental Championship
Mike vs Joe
Result Joe pins Mike
European Championship
No contenders
Credit Battle Royale
No contenders
Statistics for title reigns, cash-ins and credits, rosters, and player records can be found at www.facebook.com/groups/RawDealScotland
Please contact me, Liam Noble on facebook messenger, or redyellowedge on TCO for access to this group
NOTE:
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are permitted to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
Tournament Report: Raw Deal Scotland 13 August 2017
Format: Virtual Classic up to V1
3 Rounds Swiss (50 min time limit) + Top X Cut to title matches
Players and Superstars used:
Titan – X-Pac Richard – Christy
Newlands – Triple H Joe – Mr. PPV
Ben – Dwayne Johnson Mike – Mickie James
Sheepy – Big Freak'n Machine
Current Champions
CAIRDS World Champion – Richard
Intercontinental Champion – Vacant
European Champion – Jam (defended by proxy by Sheepy)
NOTE: If any player defeats a current champion during Swiss Rounds they will receive a credit towards a MITB style cash-in on that championship
Results from Swiss
Round 1
Mike 0-0 Titan Joe 0-3 Newlands
Ben 2-0 Richard Sheepy 0 (Absent)
Round 2
Ben 2-0 Newlands Sheepy 0-3 Mike
Joe 2-0 Richard Titan 2 (Bye)
Round 3
Newlands 2-0 Sheepy Joe 0-2 Titan
Ben 0-0 Mike Richard 2 (Bye)
Final Standings after Swiss
Newlands 5
Ben 4
Titan 4
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Mike 3
Joe 2
Richard 2
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Sheepy 0
Credits:
Ben – World, pin
Joe – World, pin
Mike – EU, pin
Newlands – EU, pin
NOTE: Our title matches are determined by the current champions finishing position and worked down from top to bottom, if any champion finishes higher than his bracket, they will get a credit towards a MITB style cash-in for the title of the bracket they finish in. If any champion finishes at the bottom or below their bracket they will compete in a triple threat or fatal four way for their title. If there are 2 or more players not involved in title matches they will compete in a one fall Battle Royale where the winner receives a credit towards a title determined by the number of players in the match
Title matches
CAIRDS World Championship
Richard vs Ben vs Newlands vs Titan
Result: Richard Pins Ben
Intercontinental Championship
Mike vs Joe
Result Joe pins Mike
European Championship
No contenders
Credit Battle Royale
No contenders
Statistics for title reigns, cash-ins and credits, rosters, and player records can be found at www.facebook.com/groups/RawDealScotland
Please contact me, Liam Noble on facebook messenger, or redyellowedge on TCO for access to this group
NOTE:
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are permitted to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
#17
Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Head Games Question
August 16, 2017, 06:09:46 AMQuote from: CreedP on August 15, 2017, 09:11:36 AM
You can't play reversals during the Pre-match phase, since it's not a turn.
Does this hold up for Jump The Bell too? I always assumed the cannot be reversed just meant Sidewalk Slam only
#18
Tournament Announcements / Raw Deal Scotland - June 4th 2017 - Classic + Virtual 1
May 16, 2017, 04:20:42 AM
**DISCLAIMER**
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are allowed to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
Format is Virtual Classic up to Virtual 1
There will be 4 rounds of Swiss followed by Title matches, each round is 40 min w/5 min overtime, Title matches have a strict 11pm cutoff
Title matches can be up to 4 players, depending on where the champions finish in the standings from Swiss
Date: 4th June 2017, 6pm registration for 6.30 start
Location:
Fraserburgh West End Bowling Club
Fraserburgh
Aberdeenshire
AB43 9JT
Contact:
Liam Noble
Message me on TCO
Join our fb Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawdealscotland
Our play group has specific rules regarding title belts:
-Only 3 players (our champions) are allowed to use them (excluding Superstar Specifics) and tag team superstars may hold singles titles
-During Swiss play these belts gain the text stating they do not take up a slot in your ring area or backlash deck
-During Title matches these belts are treated as backstage cards, but count as being in the ring area for other card's effects
Format is Virtual Classic up to Virtual 1
There will be 4 rounds of Swiss followed by Title matches, each round is 40 min w/5 min overtime, Title matches have a strict 11pm cutoff
Title matches can be up to 4 players, depending on where the champions finish in the standings from Swiss
Date: 4th June 2017, 6pm registration for 6.30 start
Location:
Fraserburgh West End Bowling Club
Fraserburgh
Aberdeenshire
AB43 9JT
Contact:
Liam Noble
Message me on TCO
Join our fb Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawdealscotland
#19
Classic Raw Deal / Introductions, Count Out Rulings, And Transitioning into Virtual
December 02, 2015, 01:09:15 PM
Hi All, I'm the 'Commissioner' for a group of Raw Deal players in Scotland, Long time lurker on this forum, but never posted to introduce myself.
Anyway, my first question is this:
How many times in a game can a player refuse a count out win? We currently play with a one-time refusal (Like a last chance to hit damage scenario) but I realize upon reading the last FAQ from CI that this isn't explicitly stated and is more how we've interpreted it.
My other point if interest is figuring out the best way to move into Virtual Sets, We currently only play Classic All Axxess, with a roster system in place to avoid multiples of the same superstar, and with a league system in place where 3 players are the World, Intercontinental, and European Champions, and they are the only superstars allowed to play Title Belts, which are used as backstage cards, rather than Pre-Match cards.
How viable is this system, moving into virtual sets? Will we still be able to play with no Revolution? Are there any recommended online printers for the virtual sets?
Thanks in advance for any advice/answers
Anyway, my first question is this:
How many times in a game can a player refuse a count out win? We currently play with a one-time refusal (Like a last chance to hit damage scenario) but I realize upon reading the last FAQ from CI that this isn't explicitly stated and is more how we've interpreted it.
My other point if interest is figuring out the best way to move into Virtual Sets, We currently only play Classic All Axxess, with a roster system in place to avoid multiples of the same superstar, and with a league system in place where 3 players are the World, Intercontinental, and European Champions, and they are the only superstars allowed to play Title Belts, which are used as backstage cards, rather than Pre-Match cards.
How viable is this system, moving into virtual sets? Will we still be able to play with no Revolution? Are there any recommended online printers for the virtual sets?
Thanks in advance for any advice/answers
#20
Fantasy Cards / Superstar Logos
June 30, 2015, 06:40:27 AM
Hey all,
Been looking for the .zip with all the superstar logos, and the only place it seems to be hosted is on Raw Deal Planet, which is now defunct, and I can't get it from there, just wondered if anyone would be willing to host it so I can grab them
Cheers
Been looking for the .zip with all the superstar logos, and the only place it seems to be hosted is on Raw Deal Planet, which is now defunct, and I can't get it from there, just wondered if anyone would be willing to host it so I can grab them
Cheers
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