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Goldberg and pre-match question
« on: August 11, 2020, 12:28:41 PM »
I'm hoping someone can confirm if the below is correct when it comes to Goldberg and this pre-match scenario:

Say I'm playing Goldberg and I go first.  I play:

Houston, Texas
You and your opponent draw 6 cards.  Randomly pick 1 card in his hand.  If it is an Action of Maneuver card, he discards it and you randomly pick another card.  If it is a non-hybrid Reversal card, he discards it and you stop picking cards.  Discard cards until you have the same number of cards in your hand as him.  All players' Starting Hand Sizes are -3

Goooolllllllllddddd d-berg!
At the end of the Pre-match phase, discard any number of cards.  Put 1 card without the Tag Team logo from your opponent's Ring area into his Ringside pile for every 2 cards discarded.  I would ditch all cards except the 2 heel cards from A No Show to remove 4 of my opponents Pre-match cards.

A No Show
Search your Arsenal for 2 cards, put them under this card, and shuffle your Arsenal.  At the end of your opponent's Pre-match phase, reveal the cards under this card, put any Heel cards with different titles into your hand and remove any other cards from the game.  Then put this car into your Backlash deck and then play 1 non Active non-unique Pre-match event. (I pop it for Givin' 'em High Fives - Reveal the top 5 cards of your arsenal, put 2 into your hand, and remove the rest from the game)

The Best Laid Plans...
You cannot pack this card if you are packing Face cards. After all players' Pre-match phases, before the first turn of the game, all players with fewer cards in their hand than their printed Starting Hand Size draw cards until they have cards in their hand equal to their printed Starting Hand Size.  If any player first reveals a Heel card in his hand, he instead draws to his printed Starting Hand Size +2

By playing all the above, would Goldberg's Starting Hand Size after the pre-match be 14?  SHS 8 + 2 heel cards + Best Laid Plans + High Fives.  Is my math correct?





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Re: Goldberg and pre-match question
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2020, 12:38:14 PM »
You would have 10 cards in hand. Best Laid Plans says that you draw "until they have... their printed Starting Hand Size," (+2) not "draw your Starting Hand Size." Every card in your hand when that effect triggers reduces the number of cards you would draw.

From the point at which you discard everything for GOOOOOOOOLDBERG, you would:

- Add 2 cards into your hand from A No Show
- Reveal a heel card for Best Laid Plans, then draw until you had 10 cards in hand.
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Re: Goldberg and pre-match question
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2020, 12:54:12 PM »
Just to confirm that I have the timing right, at the end of the Pre-match phase, I would have 9 cards in hand (Houston, TX has hand size at 5, add 2 for High Fives, and 2 for No Show). I can pitch 8 cards to remove 4 of my opponent's pre-match cards, and as long as I have 1 heel card in hand, I can draw up to 10 cards as my SHS?

You would have 10 cards in hand. Best Laid Plans says that you draw "until they have... their printed Starting Hand Size," (+2) not "draw your Starting Hand Size." Every card in your hand when that effect triggers reduces the number of cards you would draw.

From the point at which you discard everything for GOOOOOOOOLDBERG, you would:

- Add 2 cards into your hand from A No Show
- Reveal a heel card for Best Laid Plans, then draw until you had 10 cards in hand.

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Re: Goldberg and pre-match question
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2020, 01:10:06 PM »
Presuming you had higher SSV:

Houston would have happened when it was played.
High Fives (TB, I presume, or else you'd have some issues with the whole face/heel thing) would occur when played.
GOOOOOLDBERG would trigger at the end of your pre-match phase.

Then your opponent would resolve.
Then No Show would go off, putting Heel cards in your hand.
Then Best Laid Plans would happen, you would reveal a Heel card, and you would draw until you had 10 cards in hand.

If your opponent had higher SSV:

Houston and High Fives would again happen as they were played.
Then No Show would go off when your opponent finished resolving.
Then GOOOLDBERG would occur during your end of Pre-match phase.
Then Best Laid Plans would happen, etc.
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