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Offline darkdestiny91

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Wanted to clarify any differences from 'reversal restrictions'
« on: November 06, 2018, 08:57:50 PM »
Just needed a clarification on certain cards regarding the Chain trait as well.

1. Scenario A: Player A plays a printed Chain card after his previously played printed Chain card, would player B's Carlito Says "That's Not Cool!" work?

Carlito Says "That’s Not Cool!"
Reversal: Special
This card ignores any reversal restrictions from the reversed card.
Reverse any non-unique maneuver with a printed reversal restriction, draw 2 cards, and your opponent discards 2 random cards.
When overturned, this card is -5F and can also reverse any card with Momentum or any non-damage card effect.
F: 5     D: 0     Unique

2. Scenario B: Same as above, but can player B play This Is Going To Be an Old School Brawl! to the same

This Is Going To Be an Old School Brawl!
Mid-match Reversal: Special
Can only be played when your opponent plays a maneuver with a reversal restriction from his card that is not his first maneuver with a reversal restriction from his card this turn. Blank that maneuver's text and damage, he discards 2 random cards, and end his turn.
When this card is in your Ring and he plays a non-Superstar-specific maneuver with a reversal restriction from his card that is not his first maneuver this turn with a reversal restriction from his card, he overturns 2 cards.
F: 0     D: 2     Unique     RMS logo

Lastly, I was also hoping for a clarification on Chain trait given by other cards, and whether the reversals in both Scenario A and B works if it's say, granted by The Legend Lives On

The Legend Lives On
Reversal: Special
Reverse any Chain, Heat, Throwback, Volley, or Restricted Modification Symbol card and end your opponent's turn. Discard your hand.
When this card is in your Ring area, during your turn your Maneuver cards in your Ringside pile and played from your Ringside pile are Heat cards, and your Maneuver cards played from your hand are Chain cards.
F: 0     D: 2     Unique     Errata
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Re: Wanted to clarify any differences from 'reversal restrictions'
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2018, 10:29:23 PM »
Just needed a clarification on certain cards regarding the Chain trait as well.

1. Scenario A: Player A plays a printed Chain card after his previously played printed Chain card, would player B's Carlito Says "That's Not Cool!" work?

Carlito Says "That’s Not Cool!"
Reversal: Special
This card ignores any reversal restrictions from the reversed card.
Reverse any non-unique maneuver with a printed reversal restriction, draw 2 cards, and your opponent discards 2 random cards.
When overturned, this card is -5F and can also reverse any card with Momentum or any non-damage card effect.
F: 5     D: 0     Unique

Carlito is an interesting situation with Chain, because it looks for two different things. Chain (presuming it is printed on the card) is a printed reversal restriction, so as the bold part indicates, it is valid to play Carlito to a Chain card. However, the reversal restriction is from the trait, not from the card, which is what the italicized part of the card looks for, so you may not ignore the two card discard. If you discard two cards, you may play Carlito against a Quick Snap Body Slam or the like.

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2. Scenario B: Same as above, but can player B play This Is Going To Be an Old School Brawl! to the same

This Is Going To Be an Old School Brawl!
Mid-match Reversal: Special
Can only be played when your opponent plays a maneuver with a reversal restriction from his card that is not his first maneuver with a reversal restriction from his card this turn. Blank that maneuver's text and damage, he discards 2 random cards, and end his turn.
When this card is in your Ring and he plays a non-Superstar-specific maneuver with a reversal restriction from his card that is not his first maneuver this turn with a reversal restriction from his card, he overturns 2 cards.
F: 0     D: 2     Unique     RMS logo

This card is looking for reversal restrictions from a card, not "from your opponent," so OSB is not a valid play against a Chain card, unless that card also has a reversal restriction from one of his cards, and it was not the first maneuver with such a restriction. (so, frex, if your opponent first played Body Lock with Drawing a Blank out, and then played Atomic Bear Hug, it would be valid to throw OSB to the Bear Hug, since both would have reversal restrictions from his card, over and above the Chain trait.)

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Lastly, I was also hoping for a clarification on Chain trait given by other cards, and whether the reversals in both Scenario A and B works if it's say, granted by The Legend Lives On

The Legend Lives On
Reversal: Special
Reverse any Chain, Heat, Throwback, Volley, or Restricted Modification Symbol card and end your opponent's turn. Discard your hand.
When this card is in your Ring area, during your turn your Maneuver cards in your Ringside pile and played from your Ringside pile are Heat cards, and your Maneuver cards played from your hand are Chain cards.
F: 0     D: 2     Unique     Errata
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The Chain trait being granted by another card does impact Carlito, because that only reverses cards with a printed reversal restriction. Unless the card that gained the Chain trait already had a printed reversal restriction, Carlito would not be a valid play.

It does not impact Old School Brawl, because the Chain trait by itself does not count as a reversal restriction from a card; the restriction always and only comes from the trait, whether the trait was printed or applied from another source.
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Re: Wanted to clarify any differences from 'reversal restrictions'
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2018, 02:03:30 AM »
Thanks for the clarification!