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Is All Axxess played regularly in your group?

Yes
5 (12.8%)
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27 (69.2%)
Sometimes
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Format isn't fun
6 (15.4%)

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Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« on: August 09, 2018, 05:48:57 PM »
Is AA played in your group?
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2018, 04:47:21 AM »
I wish I could vote no AND no fun, but I voted just no :)
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2018, 05:47:09 AM »
June 2016 is the last All Axxess report on TCO outside of Gencon.

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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2018, 06:02:02 AM »
I wish I could vote no AND no fun, but I voted just no :)

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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2018, 06:40:51 AM »
I wish I could vote no AND no fun, but I voted just no :)

So maybe a CRASHER1 or CRA$HER account will randomly pop up just to vote?  ;)

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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2018, 06:58:13 AM »
So maybe a CRASHER1 or CRA$HER account will randomly pop up just to vote?  ;)

Doesn't look like the voting needs any help  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2018, 07:03:41 AM »
As much as I wanna say I like the format cause I abuse it, its really rather boring. The part I don't like is the inclusion of the different move types as well as Antics. Its just not needed, and with certain characters can end up unnecessarily abusive. I have no problem at all with cards like My Way, Twonfor the show, Off your Mark, dressed for success etc, cause they have classic aspects to them, and to be honest, virtual classic might not hurt to have My Way and Two for the show included in it.

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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2018, 07:37:33 AM »
I haven't played much in the last way too many years, but I always thought there was just way too much to account for to be able to build even a semi-fun deck in the format. I thought combining the 2 back in the CI days was pretty much the death bell for the original game, you know besides WWE pulling the plug.
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2018, 07:43:18 AM »
Of the 23 that voted, did that sway you to not play at Worlds because VAA is a supported format?
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2018, 08:32:14 AM »
So with this poll, Are we trying to nuke the format from worlds format completely?  If that is done, then what would be replacing it?  As long as I have been playing the Top cut has always been best 2 out of 3 matches.  The formats have been Afterburn, Classic, and Revolution.  Once Virtual made its way into the game, the formats then became Classic, All Axxess, Revolution, Virtual Calssic, Virtual All Axxess, and Virtual Revolution. Now its been cut down to Virtual Classic, Virtual All Axxess, and Virtual Revolution. Now with this poll it seems like the formats are wanting to be cut down to only Virtual Classic and Virtual Revolution.  Unless they are thinking about making NXT format a worlds format.  If VAA does go away, will something be replacing it, or would it only be two formats?  Just something that caught my curiosity.
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2018, 08:38:42 AM »
In Yugioh, we play 2 decks best 2 out of 3 must win with both decks

Thats a way to handle 2 out of 3 at worlds? 2 VC decks and Nuke the bad formats? Just a thought
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2018, 08:43:59 AM »
That hasn't been determined, but best 2 out of 3 can still be done with 2 formats if it is just a VC/VR and then random for 3rd round. Attendance was at an all time low this year so we are most likely going to be changing things up for events during Thursday/Friday(Thinking a cube draft that people who play Intro can be a part of) and I hear a lot of "I only build AA for worlds" which is true even for myself I only build AA when worlds is coming up and hardly anyone is around to play it, so question is why keep a format for worlds that no one is playing?
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2018, 08:50:34 AM »
In Yugioh, we play 2 decks best 2 out of 3 must win with both decks

Thats a way to handle 2 out of 3 at worlds? 2 VC decks and Nuke the bad formats? Just a thought



Given how unplayable Yugioh is, not the best example P.
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2018, 09:01:19 AM »
Personally, I'd vote for one game VC, one game revo and let the higher seed choose the format for game 3, the guy with the better record has earned that right
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2018, 09:32:34 AM »
I have to imagine requiring 4 decks built for Worlds would only hamper attendance.
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2018, 10:30:58 AM »
I have never attended worlds, so my opinion may not hold much weight in this...I've always been against the format because Revo and Classic were never truly meant to mesh. Should've died with the introduction of virtual...and if there was legit reason to keep it at that time when I wasnt playing, then so be it. And FYI, I never consider any form of "because it's always been that way" as a legit reason. Not to offend anyone, but that's a lazy man's answer

I think it would make preparing for worlds easier for some, maybe make it more likely for then to come....oh and I feel like this could make the developers job a little easier not having to keep VAA in mind when creating new cards
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2018, 11:32:58 AM »
I have to imagine requiring 4 decks built for Worlds would only hamper attendance.

Presently it's at 3 (VC, VAA and VREV), this would reduce/simplify it down to two

I cringe at back when we had standard classic, AA, VC VAA and VREV those two years....it was awful.....
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2018, 01:32:42 PM »
If we do go forward and eliminate the format, whats everyones thoughts on the idea of migrating in classic friendly Revo cards into the VC format? I.E. my way, two for the show, revo IC belt, Ruckus at ringside etc

I mean, lets be honest. Two for the show has no business in the revo format, with Revolution counting as a word, how many cards does it actually stop? 1? Lol

Just a thought, wanna know what you guys think. It might give a nice pick up the VC without making it into an AA format
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2018, 01:35:21 PM »
I hear a lot of "I only build AA for worlds"

Outside of Singapore, I think the same thing can be said about Revolution. Not to derail the conversation, but outside of the Gencon promos, weren’t the last Revolution cards released almost two years ago? Hopefully if AA gets dropped, it’ll open more time for Revolution support, if it’s intended to be kept for Worlds going forward.


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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2018, 01:37:36 PM »
R: Two for the show is basically the divine for the format

Ruckus at Ringside has one, it's called Old School Cage :)

Making classic versions of my way and two for the show is food for thought

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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2018, 01:46:12 PM »
This needs to be a complete separation. Not kill the format and cherry pick the broken cards to VC haha!
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2018, 01:55:41 PM »
VC is VC, not VAA-lite.

IMO creating another format is too much work, certainly not something we would design around.  The concept is to make LESS work to improve what you get, not more, heh.

Designing around VC and VR is massively simpler than constant worry about crossover implications.  From my point of view, VAA should be like Tornado Tag - it's a wacky alternate format where 'everything's broken' (aside from a few minor absurdly unbalanced obviously things), play it if you want.  But for serious play, VC or VR (or maybe NXT).

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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2018, 02:41:50 PM »
...For some reason my brain was thinking 'choose the last format' was between VAA and NXT, because I wanted to complicate this even further.

VAA is madness and sparta mixed together and I do legit think cutting it as a World's format is what's best.
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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2018, 08:29:42 AM »
I didn't play at worlds, despite being at Gencon, strictly because I got curb stomped the prior year in Virtual All Axxess. So yeah do what you will with that information.

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Re: Virtual All Axxess, do you play it?
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2018, 10:35:52 AM »
VAA  in worlds has always been is my broken deck more broken then your broken deck. there are way too many games where prematch takes longer then the game. It's a headache for play testing.imagine all the text we could clean up on superstars if they couldn't pack rev naturally. it is thoroughly un-fun and a headache to build.

 Killing it in favor of NXT would be more applicable for worlds then having just 2 decks of just Vrev and VC, as most of people are ok at building rev and a handful are terrifyingly good at it(glances over at Mitch).
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