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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #175 on: March 15, 2018, 11:44:56 AM »
I would be interested to see Nash, haven't seen a solid build for him personally. And why cut Too Cool? They haven't been making any waves really.

My thoughts exactly. Every time I think of building Too Cool I wonder why I'm not building Rikishi or Scotty instead.

Nash seems decent on paper but I've yet to see anything solid for him; I'm intrigued to see someone make something of him.
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #176 on: March 15, 2018, 11:48:38 AM »
I was kind of iffy on adding Billy and Chuck to my list anyway, and we've discussed Mae, but I don't entirely know why Pimpin's objecting to the rest of the names on his list. As far as I can tell, none of them are strong builds, they don't see much high level play, and there are people who do what they do better. They all feel like exactly the kind of deck that belongs in this type of tournament. I'm open to hearing arguments about why they're too good, though.
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #177 on: March 15, 2018, 11:51:10 AM »
I would be interested to see Nash, haven't seen a solid build for him personally. And why cut Too Cool? They haven't been making any waves really.

My thoughts exactly. Every time I think of building Too Cool I wonder why I'm not building Rikishi or Scotty instead.

Nash seems decent on paper but I've yet to see anything solid for him; I'm intrigued to see someone make something of him.

Too Cool, yes, is a slightly lesser Rikishi, but they get Tag support and you'll be surprised at the number of good two-words maneuvers there are.

As to Nash, I've played him enough to know he's good.  He was an eyelash away from being my pick for Worlds the year I went to Gencon
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #178 on: March 15, 2018, 12:10:38 PM »
Billy & Chuck
Hogan (non-TB)
Jeff Hardy
Johnny Nitro
Kaientai
Kevin Nash
MNM
Too Cool

If we take Nash and Too Cool off the list should we cut the rest of his suggestions also? I can see an argument for Hogan, Hardy and Nitro.

Viscera should be cut from the list, he's a strong deck, just not seen often. Same could be said for The Corre.
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #179 on: March 15, 2018, 12:37:15 PM »
The way I will approach this is will this superstar wipe out 80% of the current field easily. These are the people I would add
The Mega Powers
the Dudley family
The Usos
The Heartbreak kid TB
Team x-treme
Michael cole
Vickie guerrero
teddy long
AJ Lee
Eve
Sid
ken kennedy
Seth Rollins(as discussed in other threads not good enough for the level of real life. new cards help but is still kinda low)
Brie bella TB
The Bella Twins
Tazz
Leader of the edge army (Good midmatch reversal. but still barely low mid tier. is not rolling anyone in this field)
Chavo


one's i'd get off the list
Kozlov( I watched Dooshebag go undefeated on lackey with kozlov for a year it seemed like.)
Scott Hall is a reversal beast. I'd play him over razor any day of the week. and that was before his new cards
Kenny is usually the 3rd best  spirit squad solo ss behind nicky and johnny. only  mikey and/or mitch should be on this list

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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #180 on: March 15, 2018, 12:42:16 PM »
Jeff Hardy does need to go I would run the table with Jeff.
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #181 on: March 15, 2018, 12:48:38 PM »
The Mega Powers: Really? I can't see them being on this list, honestly.

 
the Dudley family: Maybe? They are gimmicky, sure but man there's potential.

The Usos: I'm building them right now, they have an excellent card flow. What's their weakness?

The Heartbreak kid TB: I can see this one, actually.

Team x-treme: Never played them

Michael cole: I agree, I'd rather use the enforcer

Vickie guerrero: I can see this one also

teddy long: a thousand times no, he's way good!

AJ Lee: Man, I'm lost here. She seems so great

Eve: Really?!

Sid: Uhhh....I can't see this at all.

ken kennedy: Sure, we can add him.

Seth Rollins: same as above


Brie bella TB: No idea, never played as or against her

The Bella Twins: see above

Tazz: No way, Tazz is a beast (imo)

Leader of the edge army: I hear ya but Edge's card pool is insane!

Chavo: I beg to differ but perhaps that's just me
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #182 on: March 15, 2018, 12:55:13 PM »
Okay, new list:

Okay so we have:

"Bad" Superstars Tournament Suggestons:

Bam Bam Bigelow
Brie Bella TB
Brodus Clay
Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake
Buh-Buh Ray Dudley
Chavo Guerrero
Darren Young
David Otunga
Dean Malenko
Demolition
D-Von Dudley
Eric Rowan
Evan Bourne
Festus
Funaki
Goldust
Hacksaw Jim Duggan
Heidenreich
Irwin R. Schyster
Jack Swagger
Jerry Lawler
Justin Gabriel
Ken Kennedy
Lance Storm
Leader of the Edge Army
Lex Luger
Maryse
Michael Cole
Michael Tarver
Mikey
Mitch
Nikolai Volkoff
Norman Smiley
Prime Time Players
Raven
Rene Dupree
Rowdy Roddy Piper
R-Truth
Sami Zayn
Santino Marella
Seth Rollins
Sin Cara
Skip Sheffield
Stevie Richards
Team Hell No
The Bella Twins
The Corre
The Dangerous Alliance
The Heartbreak Kid TB
The King of Kings (Throwback)
The Rockers
The Steiner Brothers
Titus O'Neil
Vickie Guerrero
Yokozuna
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #183 on: March 15, 2018, 01:53:37 PM »
Cole? The same Cole who has won
Worlds and was in the top 4 of this recent Worlds?
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #184 on: March 15, 2018, 03:27:58 PM »
I guess LotEA is better in AA....but still....he's kinda good
Cole deserves be nowhere near this list....

though shame on me for not demanding the damned Sexy Beast on this list....he's TERRIBLE!!!!!

Kennedy is damned good too with his "One Man Band" plus DaB
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #185 on: March 15, 2018, 03:39:33 PM »
I only added Cole and Kennedy per suggestion, they can be removed of course
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #186 on: March 15, 2018, 03:40:39 PM »
Bam Bam Bigelow
Brie Bella TB
Brodus Clay
Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake
Buh-Buh Ray Dudley
Chavo Guerrero
Darren Young
David Otunga
Dean Malenko
Demolition
D-Von Dudley
Eric Rowan
Evan Bourne
Festus
Funaki
Goldust
Hacksaw Jim Duggan
Heidenreich
Irwin R. Schyster
Jack Swagger
Jerry Lawler
Justin Gabriel
Lance Storm
Lex Luger
Maryse
Michael Tarver
Mikey
Mitch
Nikolai Volkoff
Norman Smiley
Prime Time Players
Raven
Rene Dupree
Rowdy Roddy Piper
R-Truth
Sami Zayn
Santino Marella
Seth Rollins
Sin Cara
Skip Sheffield
Stevie Richards
Team Hell No
The Bella Twins
The Corre
The Dangerous Alliance
The Heartbreak Kid TB
The King of Kings (Throwback)
The Rockers
The Sexy Beast
The Steiner Brothers
Titus O'Neil
Vickie Guerrero
Yokozuna
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #187 on: March 15, 2018, 05:23:07 PM »
I'll suggest Edge and Christian, and Dudleyz.

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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #188 on: March 16, 2018, 08:20:43 AM »
I'll suggest Edge and Christian, and Dudleyz.

I can MAYBE see Dudleyz (but come on the virtual support is awesome) but E&C? No way Jose.
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #189 on: March 16, 2018, 08:23:56 AM »
dudleys get a free chain lashing tb that they can search for, they in no way belong on this list

the family maybe
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #190 on: March 16, 2018, 08:32:20 AM »
I'll suggest Edge and Christian, and Dudleyz.

I can MAYBE see Dudleyz (but come on the virtual support is awesome) but E&C? No way Jose.

I can't countenance the addition of anyone who, with a careful setup, gets to throw an unrespondable Kitchen Sink on turn 1 to this list.
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #191 on: March 16, 2018, 09:22:06 AM »
I'll suggest Edge and Christian, and Dudleyz.

I can MAYBE see Dudleyz (but come on the virtual support is awesome) but E&C? No way Jose.

I can't countenance the addition of anyone who, with a careful setup, gets to throw an unrespondable Kitchen Sink on turn 1 to this list.

Agreed!
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #192 on: March 16, 2018, 04:33:08 PM »
Ok I am out of ideas then haha.  The list seems good.

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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #193 on: March 16, 2018, 05:36:29 PM »
How can there be no Billy Gunn on this list? 😒

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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #194 on: March 16, 2018, 06:04:49 PM »
How can there be no Billy Gunn on this list? 😒

Billy Gunn is a Bada$$, not a bad deck.
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #195 on: March 16, 2018, 06:09:18 PM »
has some good cards but he is not good
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« Reply #196 on: March 16, 2018, 06:13:47 PM »
3 Permanent Luck of the Draws is nothing to sneeze at.....
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #197 on: March 16, 2018, 08:07:17 PM »
3 Permanent Luck of the Draws is nothing to sneeze at.....

That, with his ability, you could almost use every damn turn

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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #198 on: March 16, 2018, 08:40:30 PM »
3 Permanent Luck of the Draws is nothing to sneeze at.....

That, with his ability, you could almost use every damn turn


Yea I built a Billy Gunn around that it recovered for a looong time and never ran out of dynamics.
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Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« Reply #199 on: March 16, 2018, 10:45:28 PM »
Wait demolition is considered bad? I tore it up at locals with them. Seemed very playable to me.