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So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« on: December 15, 2017, 12:25:59 PM »
Curious as to what some plans for superstars or expansions were in place.

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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2017, 02:03:54 PM »
Muhammad Hassan was slated to release in Unforgiven, but due to him being written off of tv, )3 was changed to Gene Sniksky.
The Unamericans were to be in Velocity, but in a similar fashion were yanked and I believe swapped in for Jamie Noble. Christian's shared card was to be along the lines of Go On - Gove Em Some Sugar.
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2017, 05:49:26 PM »
Chris Masters in Great American Bash.
Pulled because failed steroid test.

Wasnt Brett Hart supposed to be in GAB too?
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2017, 10:30:19 PM »
Woah, this might be a really interesting topic to discuss about!

Were any superstars original cards changed drastically to be the ones we have iterations of now?

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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2017, 01:42:32 AM »
I remember reading that Chavo was originally going to be  Kerwin White, and his superstar cards were going to be white instead of yellow/blue/red.

And I think Lance Storm became Renee Dupree
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2017, 02:03:18 AM »
Latino Cheat was originally slated for Armageddon.
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2017, 06:56:59 AM »
Rhyno was supposed to be Tommy Dreamer.
Eugene was supposed to be Dean Malenko (with some tweaks)
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2017, 08:47:41 AM »
Also that Big Show was supposed to be in Premiere, but was sent to OVW to lose weight. Jericho took his place.
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2017, 11:41:23 AM »
Lance Storm was indeed originally Rene Dupree but with no recovery addition in his ability; instead he had a 15 card SHS
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2017, 12:16:27 PM »
I remember someone, I think it was Creed, posting something about a Tito Santana legend that was planned on, but scrapped. I could be wrong.
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2017, 04:16:31 PM »
You are not wrong.  He was a Superstar + 1 card, pulled before beta testing for the set.

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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2017, 06:12:51 PM »
Santana's +1 card was his finisher, the Flying Burrito. I wish that I was making that up.
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2017, 09:22:55 PM »
I believe The Mystery Wrestler was supposed to be Mick Foley.
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2017, 11:36:50 PM »
Willing to share any Superstar Face Cards or abilities that didn't make it for some reason? I remember CreedP sharing Jimmy Snuka the other time.

Priceless efforts as such shouldn't be put to sleep. It's worth the share!
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2017, 10:47:37 AM »


124/173 (PREMIUM RARE – Jimmy Snuka)
Jimmy Snuka (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 6
Superstar Value: 3
Legend Superstar Ability:
Once during each of your turns you may either put 1 card with the word “chop” in the title from your Ringside pile on the bottom of your Arsenal or search your Arsenal for 1 card with the word “chop” in the title, reveal it to your opponent, put it into your hand, and shuffle your Arsenal.
When you successfully play a maneuver with the word “chop” in the title, you may search your Arsenal for 1 High Risk maneuver, reveal it to your opponent, put it into your hand, and shuffle your Arsenal.

125/173 (ULTRA RARE – FOIL – Jimmy Snuka)
Superfly Splash
High Risk + Trademark Finisher
Can only be played after a successfully played maneuver.
Multi
Unique
SV: 3
F: 30      D: 30

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126/173 (PREMIUM RARE – Tito Santana)
Tito Santana (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 7
Superstar Value: 1
Legend Superstar Ability:
Once during each of your turns you may put 1 Strike maneuver from your Ringside pile into your hand. 

127/173 (ULTRA RARE – FOIL – Tito Santana)
The Flying Burrito
Trademark Finisher / Reversal: Special
As a maneuver, can only be played after a successfully played card. Can only be reversed from your opponent’s hand when played after the card titled Irish Whip.
As a reversal, reverse any Set-up card and end your opponent’s turn.
Unique
SV: 3
F: 20      D: 20

They would have been something like JYD, just a Superstar + TMF, with 1-2 cards of support down the road.

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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2017, 10:50:06 AM »
Here is the rest of the stuff that never saw print:

The Sensei of Mattitude
Reversal: Special
Reverse any non-unique card and end your opponent’s turn.
When this card is in your Ring area, during your turn you may put this card into your Ringside pile and then search your Arsenal for 1 High Risk maneuver, reveal it to your opponent, put it into your hand, shuffle your Arsenal, and discard 1 card.
(Activated Card Effect Symbol)
F: 4 D: 0

Fear THE GORE – Fear It!
Action: Set-up
Can only be played as the first card played of your turn.
When this card is in your Ring area, your maneuvers are -5F and when you successfully play a Foreign Object, you may shuffle 1 non-Reversal card from your Ringside pile into your Arsenal.
F: 0 D: 0

Molly’s Handspring Elbow
Strike
Can only be played after a successfully played card.
When played after the card titled Throw Into the Corner Turnbuckle, can only be reversed from your opponent’s hand.
When successfully played, your next card played this turn cannot be reversed.
F: 6 D: 6

#05/24 (FOIL)
Linda McMahon (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 0+
Superstar Value: 1+
Superstar Ability:
Reveal 1 Superstar card that does not have the word “Enforcer” in its text from your Backstage area and add its Starting Hand Size, Superstar Value, and Superstar Ability to your Starting Hand Size, Superstar Value, and Superstar Ability. If you are packing a card that Superstar cannot play or pack, you cannot play it and it is considered to have blank text, unless it’s a Superstar-specific card or a card that can only be packed by a Female Superstar. Your opponent cannot play any card with the word “Linda” in the title.

#06/24 (FOIL – Linda McMahon logo)
According to the Event Calendar
Can only be revealed from your Backstage area when you reveal your Superstar card.
You may choose whether your opponent may or may not play a Venue card.
If he plays a Venue card, his Starting Hand Size is -2.
Unique

#07/24 (FOIL – Linda McMahon logo)
Driven to Succeed
Mid-match Action
Can only be played when your Fortitude Rating is greater than your opponent’s Fortitude Rating.
Can be reversed by any card with the word Piledriver in the title, as if it were a Reversal card, and end your turn.
When this card is in your Ring area, when you successfully play a card, draw up to 2 cards or shuffle up to 2 cards from your Ringside pile into your Arsenal.
Unique
F: 17 D: 0

#08/24 (FOIL – Linda McMahon logo)
The Voice of Reason
Action
Choose one: draw cards until you have the same number of cards in your hand as your opponent; your Fortitude Rating is considered to be the same as his for the rest of the turn; or shuffle up to # cards from your Ringside pile into your Arsenal, where # is equal to your Superstar Value plus his Superstar Value.
Unique
F: 8 D: 0

172/181 (ULTRA RARE – FOIL for Gail Kim)
Gail’s Flying Head Scissors / Arm Bar [Placeholder Title: Actual Name?]
High Risk / Submission / Reversal: Special
As a maneuver, can only be played after a successfully played 5D or greater maneuver.
As a reversal, reverse any maneuver played after the card titled Irish Whip and end your opponent’s turn.
Multi
Unique
SV: 2
F: 25 D: 20

177/181 (ULTRA RARE – FOIL for Nidia)
Spank Me Raw – as Raw as You Want
Action
Your opponent chooses 5, 6, or 7.
Overturn that many cards and then draw that many cards.
Unique
F: 0 D: 0

180/181 (ULTRA RARE – FOIL for FBI)
We’re Calling For a Sit-Down…
Action
All players shuffle up to # cards from their Ringside pile into their Arsenal, where # is equal to their opponent’s Superstar Value.
When this card is in your Ringside pile, when you successfully play a maneuver you may put this card into your hand.
Unique
F: 0 D: 0

169/198 (PREMIUM RARE – Dudley Boyz logo)
Turn the Tables
Reversal: Action
Reverse any Action card and end your opponent’s turn. When you have fewer cards in your hand than him, draw cards until you have the same number of cards in your hand as him.
F: 4 D: 0

170/198 (PREMIUM RARE – Bubba Ray Dudley logo)
Return to the Extreme
Action
Put 1 card from your Ringside pile into your hand.
When this card is in your Ring area, during your turn you may remove this card from the game and then put 1 card from your Ringside pile into your hand.
(Activated Card Effect Symbol)
F: 0 D: 0

171/198 (PREMIUM RARE – D-Von Dudley logo)
The Saving Grace
Trademark Finisher / Action
As a maneuver, shuffle up to 2 cards from your Ringside pile into your Arsenal.
As an action, this card is -15F and -15D, shuffle this card into your Arsenal and then your opponent discards 1 card.
SV: 1
F: 15 D: 15

177/198 (PREMIUM RARE – Spike Dudley logo)
Top Rope Footstomp
High Risk
Can only be played after a successfully played maneuver.
Cannot be reversed when played after the card titled From the Top Rope.
SV: 1
F: 9 D: 11

Latino Cheat (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 0
Superstar Value: 4
Superstar Ability:
Do not draw cards during your Draw Segment; instead, search your Arsenal for 1 card, put it into your hand, and shuffle your Arsenal.
You cannot play any card with the same title as a card in your Ring area.
You may pack any cards with the Eddie Guerrero logo, but you do not count as that Superstar.

The Three Amigos
Grapple + Grapple + Grapple
Can only be played after a successfully played card.
(Restricted Modification Symbol)
Multi: 3
Unique
F: 0 D: 5

License to Steal
Reversal: Special
Reverse any non-unique card and end your opponent’s turn. Look at his hand, choose 1 card, and he discards the chosen card.
Unique
F: 17 D: 3

I’m Your Papi!
Action
Your opponent’s Reversal cards to your next card played this turn are +10F.
Unique
F: 2 D: 3

Atomic Drop Kick
Strike
Can only be played after a successfully played card.
Unique
SV: 2
F: 5 D: 10

Stealing Life – Cheating Death
Action / Reversal: Special
As an action, your opponent overturns 5 cards and you put 5 cards from your Ringside pile on the bottom of your Arsenal.
As a reversal, when overturned, reverse any maneuver and end your opponent’s turn.
When this card is in your Ringside pile, during your turn you may discard 1 card and then put this card on the bottom of your Arsenal.
Unique
F: 10 D: 0

(PREMIUM RARE – Tajiri)
Extreme Buzzsaw
Action / Reversal: Special
As an action, this card is -4F and -2D, shuffle this card into your Arsenal and your opponent discards 2 cards.
As a reversal, when played from your hand, reverse any non-unique maneuver and end your opponent’s turn.
F: 4 D: 2

(PREMIUM RARE – The Hurricane)
The Overcast
High Risk + Trademark Finisher / Action
As a maneuver, can only be played after a successfully played maneuver.
As an action, this card is -40F and -30D, put this card, 1 other card from your hand, and 1 card from your Ringside pile on the bottom of your Arsenal and then draw 1 card.
Multi
SV: 3
F: 40 D: 30

(PREMIUM RARE – Paul Heyman)
I Can’t Take Much More
Action / Reversal: Special
As an action, this card is -8F and -2D, search your Arsenal for 1 Foreign Object, reveal it to your opponent, put it into your hand, and shuffle your Arsenal.
As a reversal, reverse any Unique card and end your opponent’s turn.
F: 8 D: 2

(ULTRA RARE – FOIL – Christy)
Heidenreich Interferes
Reversal: Special: Run-in
When played from your hand, reverse any Strike or Grapple maneuver and end your opponent’s turn.
Unique
F: 0 D: 5

(ULTRA RARE – FOIL – Heidenreich)
Doomsday Device
Trademark Finisher + Trademark Finisher: Run-in
This card is -50F when you have 10 or fewer cards in your Arsenal.
When you have more than 10 cards in your Arsenal, this card can only be played after a successfully played maneuver.
Unique
Multi
SV: 3
F: 55 D: 30

146/181 (PREMIUM RARE – Stone Cold Steve Austin)
F<skull>ck Fear – Drink Beer!
Action
When played by The Rattlesnake, this card is -10F.
Shuffle up to # cards from your Ringside into your Arsenal and your opponent overturns # cards, where # is equal to your Superstar Value.
Unique
F: 10 D: 0

Sheriff Austin (Superstar Card – PROMO)
Starting Hand Size: 0+
Superstar Value: 4+
Superstar Ability:
Reveal 1 Enforcer card and choose 1 Enforcer. Once during each of your turns, you may look at the top 2 cards of your opponent’s Arsenal, put them back in any order, or put 1 card on the top and 1 card on the bottom of his Arsenal

161/181 (PREMIUM RARE – APA)
Drink or Fight – We Always Pound A%$
Reversal: Special
Reverse any non-unique card and end your opponent’s turn. Search your Arsenal for 1 Maneuver card, reveal it to him, put it into your hand, and shuffle your Arsenal.
Smackdown logo
Unique
F: 4 D: 0

165/181 (PREMIUM RARE – Brock Lesnar)
The Baddest Man on the Planet
Action
When this card is in your Ring area, once during each of your turns you may discard 1 card and then put 1 card of the same type from your Ringside pile into your hand.
Smackdown logo
Unique
F: 5 D: 0

Q: Did you ever make cards for Lance Storm? If so, why didn’t he get put in the game?
A: Lance Storm is easily in my Top 20 wrestlers of all time and I did write cards for him (note: no one has ever seen them and they were never playtested) but unfortunately his spot on the programming never made him right for the game. Remember, it’s not about putting in the people that I might want to put in, or who you would, or any one person would want to put into the game, but rather to put in the right people in each and every set. I’ve said this before regarding Stevie Richards, I’m a huge fan of his and I’d love to see him in Raw Deal, but it isn’t his time yet, especially now since he is barely on TV anymore. Maybe in 2006 for Stevie. But since Lance’s ability was somewhat recycled, I guess I’ll show some untested Barron cards, the kind of cards that never see print as these are what they look like before getting tweaked in playtesting (either made better or worse). In Lance’s case, I haven’t seen these cards in about a year and they don’t look too bad:

Lance Storm (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 15
Superstar Value: 1
Superstar Ability:
You cannot pack more than 1 copy of any card.

If I Could Be Serious For a Moment…
Mid-match Action
Search your Arsenal for the cards titled Great Technical Knowledge, Turn the Match into a Pier Six Brawl, and Amazing Display of Power, reveal them to your opponent, put them into your hand, shuffle your Arsenal, and they are F:0 for the rest of the turn.
Unique
F: 0 D: 0

Don’t Blame Canada – Blame Yourself!
Action
Put up to # cards from your Ringside pile into your hand, where # is equal to double the number of different Maneuver types in your Ring area.
Unique
F: 5 D: 0

Dance, Lance, Dance!
Action / Reversal: High Risk
As an action, shuffle up to 7 cards from your Ringside pile into your Arsenal and draw 1 card.
As a reversal, reverse any High Risk maneuver and end your opponent’s turn.
Unique
F: 7 D: 0

Storm’s Superkick
Strike / Reversal: Special
As a maneuver, this card is -5F, shuffle up to # cards from your Ringside pile into your Arsenal, where # is equal to your opponent’s Superstar Value.
As a reversal, reverse any Strike or Grapple maneuver and end your opponent’s turn.
Unique
SV: 1
F: 15 D: 10

Canadian Maple Leaf
Trademark Finisher / Reversal: Submission
As a maneuver, you may search your Arsenal and Ringside pile for the card titled Maintain Hold, reveal it to your opponent, put it into your hand, and shuffle your Arsenal. If your next card played this turn is the card titled Maintain Hold, you can ignore the “Can only be played after…” text.
As a reversal, reverse any Submission maneuver and end your opponent’s turn.
Unique
SV: 2
F: 25 D: 20
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2017, 10:52:46 AM »
Here's more:

124/181 (STARTER DECK EXCLUSIVE – FOIL – Dudley Family logo)
Dudley Family (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 7
Superstar Value: 4
Superstar Ability:
You may pack up to 15 cards with any Dudley logo, but you do not count as those Superstars. Once during each of your turns you may remove 3 cards in your hand from the game and then search your opponent’s Arsenal for 3 cards, remove them from the game, and he shuffles his Arsenal.

125/181 (ULTRA RARE –FOIL– Bubba Ray, D-Von, Spike, & Dudley Boyz logos)
Don’t Cross the Family, We’re Harder than Hardcore
Pre-match Event
Once during each of your turns you may remove up to 3 cards in your Ringside pile from the game and if your next card played that turn is a maneuver, it is +3D for each card removed.
¶ ¶ ¶ (Activated Card Effect Symbol)
Unique
Permanent
F: 0      D: 0

126/181 (ULTRA RARE – FOIL – D-Von Dudley logo)
The Saving Grace
Trademark Finisher
When this card is in your Ringside pile, during your turn you may discard your hand and then put this card into your hand.
Unique
SV: 3
F: 25      D: 25

127/181 (STARTER DECK EXCLUSIVE – FOIL – Bubba Ray Dudley logo)
Return to the Extreme
Action
Put 1 card from your Ringside pile into your hand.
When this card is in your Ring area, during your turn you may remove this card from the game and then put 1 card from your Ringside pile into your hand. 
¶ ¶ ¶ (Activated Card Effect Symbol)
Unique
F: 0      D: 0

128/181 (STARTER DECK EXCLUSIVE – FOIL – Dudley Boyz logo)
Turn the Tables
Reversal: Action
As a reversal, reverse any Action card and end your opponent’s turn. When you have fewer cards in your hand than him, draw cards until you have the same number of cards in your hand as him.
When this card is in your Ring area, ignore the “Can only be played…” text on your Superstar-specific maneuvers.
Unique
Permanent
F: 7      D: 0

129/181 (STARTER DECK EXCLUSIVE – FOIL – Spike Dudley logo)
Top Rope Footstomp
High Risk
Can only be played after a successfully played 3D or greater maneuver.
Cannot be reversed when played after the card titled From the Top Rope.
Unique
F: 9      D: 11


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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2017, 11:10:55 AM »
We tried to get some of this stuff into Virtual, like Dudley Family and Latino Cheat as examples.

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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2017, 05:48:15 PM »
How about Brett?
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2017, 06:05:19 PM »
Very early, but was already taken out by the time I was brought into the set.

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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2017, 07:21:30 AM »
The original Dudley Family.....DAMN!!!!!
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2017, 08:57:35 AM »
The original Dudley Family.....DAMN!!!!!

Yeah, that had to be changed and toned down. Dean Malenko/Eugene's ability was also way too strong.
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2017, 09:42:26 AM »
...Eugene's ability is -still- too strong! :D
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2017, 11:10:07 AM »
...Eugene's ability is -still- too strong! :D

Just imaging it involving backlash maneuvers.
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Re: So which superstars/sets were planned/canceled?
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2017, 05:52:38 AM »
...Eugene's ability is -still- too strong! :D

Just imaging it involving backlash maneuvers.

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