New SS Guides

[CreedP]

As mentioned in the card text thread, I'm working on new Superstar guides.  These won't be just the names of the cards each Superstar card pack, but the full card text for each one, as well as what set(s) they were contained in.  This includes all the Virtual sets, as well as full lists for Superstars like DX, 2MPT, New Age Outlaws, and so on.

First thing I realized is that this would be a logistical nightmare in alphabetical order, including Virtual... when a new Virtual set is released, there'd be so much shuffling, it wouldn't be worth keeping this updated, so I'll be going in chronological order.  However, it wouldn't be too terribly difficult to have a guide post, with a link to each Superstar's location, and THAT could be kept in alphabetical order... so if ACH ever comes to Raw Deal, we add him with the next set, put his link at the top of the index post, and it's easy peasey to look up.

Now, these will be MASSIVE posts, especially given the scope of Premiere superstars to include promos, teams & stables they were included in, so it's possible we'll only have 2-3 Superstars in some posts, making the lists extremely long.  So I'm thinking about how to organize it, whether a separate post by 'year' (2001 - Fully Loaded, Backlash, SS1, IAATG... 2002, Mania, Summerslam, Ruthless... etc) or just have one big massive post with pages to wade through.

Also, there was some mention in the other topic about including 'other cards', things that are relevant.  We're not going to include Irish Whip for anyone who's specifics reference it.    But I could see 1-2 key cards for that Superstar being added.  I don't think we need all the actions for William Regal, or all the Legend cards listed each time, but perhaps key cards suggested by you guys could be put in.

So let me know what you think... in a tl;dr version, basically do we want 1 huge topic or split them up by years?  And do we want certain other cards listed, too?

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[elceh]

I like your idea about posting them in chronological order, starting with Premiere.  I think it might be easier that way.

[dilbert505]

I'm definitely in favor of the key cards, as I'd mentioned before, at least for those people who heavily revolve around one or two things.

Beyond that, I vote for whatever you feel would make your life easier. You're doing this to help us, so the least we can do is help you by not demanding that you go to unnecessary effort.

[LordFa9]

maybe we can start by updating what we already have? I think just adding a subsection for each superstar that lists their virtual specifics would be a good low hanging fruit to aim for

[CreedP]

For me, it would be MORE work to do some, go back and integrate Virtual, etc.  I'm just doing it all at once.

I might mention that the sets will also be organized in my usual format.. Superstar Card, Backstage Cards, Pre-match (in play order), Mid-match, Moves, Revs, Actions - all by Fortitude, then Damage, then Alphabetically.  It should make it easier to read through IMO.  (And as mentioned, each card will have an identifier to show what set(s) it came from)

Also, I'm using my own formatting style - none of this 8 lines of text to say that it's a Throwback, RMS, show logo, Multi, Unique, etc.  It all goes in one line at the end, and if a card is a Throwback, both versions are listed.  (Or in rare cases, all 3... for example, Tori + Help's On the Way + Help TB from V3).

I'll start posting probably when I finish with the Classic superstars, I'm wrapping up Summerslam and about to start into remakes, which will speed things up a ton. 

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[LordFa9]

For me, it would be MORE work to do some, go back and integrate Virtual, etc.  I'm just doing it all at once.

I take it you're pulling it off lackley?

[CreedP]

Not at all.  Pulling from the original cardlists, and from Virtual posts here on TCO.

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[CreedP]

I've thought about it, Daeva was kind enough to be a sounding board, but I feel the best way to have threads that aren't huge, but also keep people from needing to scroll to a 2nd page, is to group the Superstars by year.  2000 is just Premiere, of course, but 2001 has Fully Loaded, Backlash, SS1, and IAATG; 2002 will have Mania, Summerslam, and Ruthless... etc.

I'm nearly done, as today was an incredibly productive day, taking me from halfway through Divas to nearly finished with No Way Out.  (Damn, almost got all of Afterburn in one day, haha)  When I finish Classic tomorrow, I've going to use the errata list to update any cards that need it, and tomorrow night I'll likely start posting.

To save sanity, we'll have one single thread for reporting any errors (much like with Lackey error reporting).  Also, I've un-sticky'd the old threads, but they won't be deleted, we'll keep them around in appreciation and for legacy purposes. 

We'll figure out afterward what (if any) cards we'll want to add in for reference, but unlikely we should add 'All X can pack these' cards, as that ends up covering way too much. 

That's about it for now, I should start posting these tomorrow night. 

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[Toxic]

I've thought about it, Daeva was kind enough to be a sounding board, but I feel the best way to have threads that aren't huge, but also keep people from needing to scroll to a 2nd page, is to group the Superstars by year.  2000 is just Premiere, of course, but 2001 has Fully Loaded, Backlash, SS1, and IAATG; 2002 will have Mania, Summerslam, and Ruthless... etc.

I'm nearly done, as today was an incredibly productive day, taking me from halfway through Divas to nearly finished with No Way Out.  (Damn, almost got all of Afterburn in one day, haha)  When I finish Classic tomorrow, I've going to use the errata list to update any cards that need it, and tomorrow night I'll likely start posting.

To save sanity, we'll have one single thread for reporting any errors (much like with Lackey error reporting).  Also, I've un-sticky'd the old threads, but they won't be deleted, we'll keep them around in appreciation and for legacy purposes. 

We'll figure out afterward what (if any) cards we'll want to add in for reference, but unlikely we should add 'All X can pack these' cards, as that ends up covering way too much. 

That's about it for now, I should start posting these tomorrow night. 

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Speaking of Afterburn, do you have a legal card list of that format?

[CreedP]

Wrong topic.

However, it is Lethal Library (Vince McMahon) forward, all prize cards legal, and any card with a Throwback.

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[CreedP]

One last question... Revo 1-3 would go in a single topic, they're low-space anyway.  But should we just put all the Revo stuff into one topic, since there aren't that many Superstars, and the sets aren't that large (compared to, say, Premiere guys getting cards through GAB and Virtual, heh)

EDIT:  There, got the first one done while home on lunch, I'll post the rest of the printed sets after work tonight.

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[Steve Resk]

I think it may help if you list the sets in order somewhere, along with what the abbreviation stand for. Some new players may not be familiar with the short hand terminology.

[CreedP]

I did mention there'd be an index.    But yeah, I'd planned to put the 'key' for the set abbreviations there as well.

Gotta fix a card error, then I'll start posting again. 

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[CreedP]

Just a short update today, the index is loaded.  Just click a link and you'll go to the post with that Superstar's cards in it.

Virtual goes a lot faster than I thought, just have to make sure I catch all the multi-logoed cards...   I -might- have it done tomorrow, hard to say, otherwise Virtual will go up next week some time.

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[CreedP]

Well, that's all of them.  As you get closer to current, it goes a LOT faster..

I'll have the guide finished up tomorrow with all of the Virtual superstars, now all that's left is chasing bugs.  Catching minor errors, anything I missed, etc.   But that will come with time.

Anyway, it's ready to go for now, if you know what set the Superstar is from, then you're off to the races.  

Enjoy!

EDIT:  And now the index is up, so it's all set to be fully used!

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