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Also, are non-signature-card signed cards signing by wrestling personalities related to the cards considered to be extremely rare? Something like Million Dollar Belt card signed by Ted Dibiase, Jack-Knife signed by Kevin Nash, or title belt cards signed by former champions. I still own Women's Title Belt signed by Trish Stratus, which is probably the most valuable card of my collection, even more so than Rock's Footstomp TB or First to Tap Out Match TB, IMO.
I was having a conversation like this with my dad yesterday. My mom bought a lot of "collectibles" like TY Beanie Babies and Barbie the year 2000 Special Edition. Now they are taking up space and worth next to nothing.
I would say Cardboard currency is about the only card that should be listed as extremely rare. I have seen it listed literally once in the last year and a half. The SS3 TB foils, while expensive are not "extremely rare", just "extremely expensive". There are some listed on Ebay right now. Anyone with a credit card can attain them and they were printed in far more availability then TR 24.
Quote from: Kratus on October 08, 2012, 04:56:43 PMI would say Cardboard currency is about the only card that should be listed as extremely rare. I have seen it listed literally once in the last year and a half. The SS3 TB foils, while expensive are not "extremely rare", just "extremely expensive". There are some listed on Ebay right now. Anyone with a credit card can attain them and they were printed in far more availability then TR 24. I beg to differ. HHH and Orton sigs and to a lesser extent Eddie and Big Show sigs were a lot more rare than the CC. I thought I heard something like 100 CC were printed, and at least those cards had some sort of game use.
Quote from: C M Punk on October 08, 2012, 08:25:55 PMQuote from: Kratus on October 08, 2012, 04:56:43 PMI would say Cardboard currency is about the only card that should be listed as extremely rare. I have seen it listed literally once in the last year and a half. The SS3 TB foils, while expensive are not "extremely rare", just "extremely expensive". There are some listed on Ebay right now. Anyone with a credit card can attain them and they were printed in far more availability then TR 24. I beg to differ. HHH and Orton sigs and to a lesser extent Eddie and Big Show sigs were a lot more rare than the CC. I thought I heard something like 100 CC were printed, and at least those cards had some sort of game use. The actual card is a BSS which is not rare, the signature variation makes it rare. I agree with you but I know what he meant. To my knowledge I have the only BSS that reads Latino Heat Eddie Guerrero both on the same card. Every other one I've seen said one or the other.
Quote from: piperspitt on October 08, 2012, 08:54:01 PMQuote from: C M Punk on October 08, 2012, 08:25:55 PMQuote from: Kratus on October 08, 2012, 04:56:43 PMI would say Cardboard currency is about the only card that should be listed as extremely rare. I have seen it listed literally once in the last year and a half. The SS3 TB foils, while expensive are not "extremely rare", just "extremely expensive". There are some listed on Ebay right now. Anyone with a credit card can attain them and they were printed in far more availability then TR 24. I beg to differ. HHH and Orton sigs and to a lesser extent Eddie and Big Show sigs were a lot more rare than the CC. I thought I heard something like 100 CC were printed, and at least those cards had some sort of game use. The actual card is a BSS which is not rare, the signature variation makes it rare. I agree with you but I know what he meant. To my knowledge I have the only BSS that reads Latino Heat Eddie Guerrero both on the same card. Every other one I've seen said one or the other.I agree with what piper said. The signatures are a pain in the butt to collect them. I have every siggy that's legit but just a question piper, I have 2 versions of Eddie, one looks like e88 and the other one looks like e88 with a LH below. What's the difference?
In my opinion the following things get the Extremely Rare Classification:Cardboard CurrencyRock/Austin Preview DecksSS2 ...damngood/Jerichoholics Eddie Signature card
$80$50/$50$5/$5$60
I don't believe I've ever seen a Non-foil Damn...Good or Jerichoholics. I've actually been looking for a non-tb Jerichoholics just for completion sake and they don't come up very often. I know there's at least one up now, but I think it's foil.
I have been told SS3 led to a big decline in players but then again I dont entirely know if that is true as my area stayed consistent till revolution.
3) It brought about Afterburn which provided a more limited card pool, which was necessary for onboarding players, but divisive, because people felt that it was akin to rotation. While some loved Afterburn, and it was typically the larger of the qualifiers, it was cited by some players as their reason for leaving. 6)you needed 3 copies of the Hurricane's Rumble Pack for his cards, and you needed 3 copies of the Rock's for the TB Spinebuster, and while in past those players may have purchased 1 of the product, they were now being driven to buy 3.
Quote from: C M Punk on November 15, 2012, 04:00:48 PMI have been told SS3 led to a big decline in players but then again I dont entirely know if that is true as my area stayed consistent till revolution.SS3 In itself didn't lead to a "big decline" but was another nail in the coffin for a number of reasons:1) Because of how ambitious the set was in terms of how it was printed and presented, the Printer had a number of problems with it, causing it to be pushed back. 2) Because of it being pushed back, it changed the release schedule for other expansions, which caused an unfortunate crunch. 3) It brought about Afterburn which provided a more limited card pool, which was necessary for onboarding players, but divisive, because people felt that it was akin to rotation. While some loved Afterburn, and it was typically the larger of the qualifiers, it was cited by some players as their reason for leaving. 4) SS3 was pushed as a reprint set, and a great way for new players to jump into the game. In reality, because of the new TB's that were included to sell, it alienated players who chose not to purchase the product. 5) Because of how ambitious the reprints were, and the selective TBing of certain UR's, it created chase cards. Raw Deal wasn't really a "chase card" game, and players were driven away by the economics involved. 6) While sales of SS3 were strong, Alan from CI and I had a long conversation where he admitted that those sales were all coming from a strong but loyal base, who recognized that you needed 3 copies of the Hurricane's Rumble Pack for his cards, and you needed 3 copies of the Rock's for the TB Spinebuster, and while in past those players may have purchased 1 of the product, they were now being driven to buy 3. I know locally my player base dropped because of the number of players who didn't purchase SS3, and then come the next expansion found themselves out of touch with the game, and missing the cards to compete.
For what its worth, I think if Raw Deal had kept going without Revolution, a Survivor Series 4 would have helped a lot. Secondary printing of those TBs and such. Granted, some guys wouldn't be around (Hurricane, for example) so his cards would still be tough to get, but usually Raw Deal was good about reprinting stuff for availability. SS3, in my best guess, was an attempt to give people better versions of cards while also helping CI make more money (not in a money-grubbing way, in a 'worthwhile profitability' sort of thing)I really think CI just wasn't making enough to feel like it was worthwhile to be in the CCG market, I remember talking to Alan (Hank? I usually forget which was which, heh) at GenCon '07 about the Stargate CCG. The first set had sold out and was really hard to find, but when I asked if they'd do a second printing, he said no. It had a good showing at GenCon, I ran about a dozen demos myself, but the attitude just seemed like they weren't too interested in CCGs anymore.CREED