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Professional Wrestling Discussion / Re: I triggered Erick Stevens last night
« Last post by Queensryche on February 04, 2020, 04:49:08 AM »
It was a fun show.

The other thing that happened was I took my Tom Lawlor t-shirt and used masking tape to spell out "SUCKS" underneath his logo. Since he turned heel (and is very effective at it), and because of the way these shows are, I held it up at various points when he was out to try and get a reaction. I got three. Lawlor saw it and looked at me with utter contempt. Team Filthy member Dominic Garrini called me an a**hole. Best compliment I received that night! And Marshall Von Erich, who's currently feuding with Lawlor, appreciated my shoddy handiwork and said it looked awesome.
Virtual Deck Reviews / Monday Night RAW is the Kevin Owen's Show!
« Last post by rachelmon on February 02, 2020, 09:43:17 PM »
Kevin Owens (FACE/RAW/FF)
The Prizefighter

Pre-match 12
Playing by the Rules TB
ECW Title Belt
NXT title Belt
The Champ is Here
Corey Graves
NXT Arrival
Fight Owens Fight
Managed by Eric Bischoff
Making Your Escape
Distractingly Divalious
Premeire RAW Superstar
Don't Question the Fire that Burns Inside

Mid-match 12
Desperate Struggle
Flawless Transition
Victory Roll
Shoot Counter
The King Interferes!
Sustained Damage
Restricted Use In This Area
Old School Brawl
Your Reach Exceeds Your Grasp
You're as Graceful as a Cow on Ice
If I Can Do That to Him, What Can I Do to You?
Controlling the Pace of the Match

Arsenal 60

Quick Snap Body Slam
Pumphandle Neckbreaker
Kevin's Cannonball
Kevin's Superkick
Shoot Lock-up x2
Precision Kick x3

Where's the Payoff? x2
From the Mind of Eric Bischoff x3
Making a Mockery of the Competition
The NXT Generation
Here Comes the Calvary!

The Kevin Owens Show
Giant Running Senton
Don't Be A Doochebag
Two Time - Two Time
Out of Nowhere
Slingshot Into the Corner Ringpost x10
Don't Try This At Home X3
Volley this x2
Sidewalk Slam TB X2

Fight Me!
I've Accomplished More in Months Than You Have in Years
Breaking Ground
Divine Intervention
Carlito Says That's Not Cool
You Missed Your Chance
A Revolution Of The Mind x3
Get the F out x3
Elbow to the Face x2
Once is Enough x3
Sloppy, Very Sloppy x3

too many mainstream owens around.. (Chain, BASH etc..)
Just would like to make use of his ability to force opponent to reverse from hand.
Fight Owens Fight to search for Precision Kick/Shoot Lock-up/Quick Snap Body Slam.
to use From the Mind to pick up Slingshots and throw at your opponent.
Added Premiere to force opponent to discard when raw cards are successful.
Where's the payoff is there for discard power if maneuver are not successful.
ECW belt and ECW allegiance to add damage for Slingshot for Victory roll.
Arrival is there for -9F counter Shoot Lock-up.
Give me some opinion..
I know this is not very strong, but just want to build him in a different way. YOLO!
Professional Wrestling Discussion / Re: I triggered Erick Stevens last night
« Last post by CreedP on February 02, 2020, 07:26:13 PM »
Nice! I love those kind of interactions at shows like this.

My favorite streamer bit from when I was going to PWG with Buddha Dudley was Kevin Steen's final show. We streamered the hell outta him, he actually walked into it, then rolled around on the mat to gather up more, and stood back up looking like some living creature made of streamers, haha.

Professional Wrestling Discussion / I triggered Erick Stevens last night
« Last post by Queensryche on February 02, 2020, 09:09:29 AM »
Last night I was at MLW Fightland in Philadelphia. Dilbert went with me to the show, and I brought streamers to throw into the ring for certain matches. Well, I wish I could have my first toss back.

The first match the streamers would come into play was for Davey Boy Smith Jr vs Erick Stevens. I had never thrown streamers before, so I did not know the proper form. But I thought I had a good idea. So DBS Jr comes to the ring, others throw their streamers. I toss mine, and immediately I know I screwed up because it's headed right for the back of Erick Stevens's head. Sure enough, it's a direct hit. Oops.

I don't know if Stevens knows it was me, but he then proceeded to pick up the spool Dilbert threw and wing it into the crowd near where we were sitting. That got a laugh from several people sitting nearby, and Dilbert said it would make good TV.

The rest of the night, Stevens would act triggered by streamers. He'd tear them up, toss them away in disgust, and even threaten people he saw had streamers. Including me. The folks in our section had fun taunting him by yelling out "STREAMERS!" and throwing bits of them in his direction.

I was rather embarrassed by my bad aim, and worried because I thought I might get tossed from the building. But I guess security saw there was no malicious intent because nothing came of it. Nobody came by or anything. Dilbert afterwards suggested I throw with a higher arc, and the next time, for Brian Pillman Jr's match against Jimmy Havoc, my toss was much better.

So yeah. Erick, my bad.
Virtual Raw Deal / Re: The Voice Of The Voiceless ?
« Last post by MonkeyLord13 on February 01, 2020, 08:15:50 AM »
You can’t play reversals like Strangle Hold and Backlash to Punk’s shoot maneuvers while TVoTV is in his ring.

The Voice of the Voiceless applies a restriction on the opposing player, not on the actual reversal card or the shoot maneuver itself.

IF what TVotV said was “Your shoot maneuvers gain the text ‘Cannot be reversed by non-Superstar-Specific 3D+ reversals.’” that would be an attempt to modify the maneuvers, and RMS would apply. But the focus of the relevant effect of TVotV specifically references and limits your opponent.
Virtual Raw Deal / The Voice Of The Voiceless ?
« Last post by The Kisser on February 01, 2020, 06:39:55 AM »
The Voice of the Voiceless     (CM Punk logo)
Pre-match Event
Cannot be blanked.  Your CM Punk-specific cards do not take up a Pre-match slot in your Ring.
Your opponent cannot Activate cards or play non-Superstar-specific reversals of D:3+ in response to your maneuvers with 'shoot' in the title.  When you successfully play a maneuver with 'shoot' in the title, draw 1 card.
When you have at least 5 lower Fortitude and your maneuver with 'shoot' in the title is unsuccessfully played, you may put I'm Straight-Edge from your Backlash into your Ring.
F: 0     D: 0     Unique     Permanent

Ok my ? say Punk throws a Shoot Kicker Hold, Shoot Slam, Shoot Headlock, Shoot Punch
On them can you OG Strangle Hold (Which does 3 Damage and makes them Discard 2) or The Kicker Hold or Headlock cause both of them have Restricted Mod Symbols on them which TVOTV modifies your opponents Reversals to them and I thought RMS mean nothing can modify anything add to that card also could you play like Backlash (Which Dose 3) to the 2nd Card if it's 1 of them 4 Shoot Cards but couldn't if it were like a Shoot Suplex, Shoot Lock Up instead cause these 2 haven't got a RMS symbol on them.
So ? is can a Strangle Hold OG or Backlash be used to reverse the 1st 4 cards I mentioned or what just curious
Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual Holiday: Then, Now, Forever
« Last post by Eric RD on January 30, 2020, 05:01:06 AM »
Superstar guide is the correct answer. Image will be updated to reflect this come revisions.

Woah den cornette is even lousier den he already is.
Not perm, can flip, can blank & such a big cost to ace when he has no drawing power🤔.
An ability tat contradicts itself for goin chain & nthin to negate oswm tb🤔. Guess going heat stall is probably the only viable way & just concede when yr opponent plays oswm tb👍

Cornette has been testing by various people playing various ways. There are methods to flip cards back over, unblank it and so on. Lots of decks do poorly against OSWM as well, doesn't mean he is a lousy Superstar.

EXACTLY why it needs to be toned down

Agree with necrobaron here. We finally get a blue control deck contender that could be good against OSWM TB but when we point it out, your argument is that "other decks suck against OSWM TB too" without providing specific reasoning for why Corny's cards are broken otherwise in your testing, then maybe OSWM TB isn't the problem here.

Revisions are still coming in the first part of the year. We know there are some problematic cards that will be getting adjusted.  I don't belueve we need to reveal everything that comes across in playtesting.

If you feel that OSWM isn't the problem then I would love to hear your thoughts as to what it could be.
Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Old School wrestling match tb fixes
« Last post by niiiiick on January 29, 2020, 09:39:00 AM »
I put my 2 cents in discord.

What if the wording was changed to match that of nWo Poison? Where if a players ends their turn with attempting a maneuver, they overturn 6. Allows blue to exist, BUT they still have to throw moves if their turn isnt ended by a reversal or and opponents effect.

 I honestly dont care either way, just throwing it out there.
Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Old School wrestling match tb fixes
« Last post by BigPimpin on January 29, 2020, 07:45:03 AM »
For those saying "specifics to negate OSWM TB": there are already decks that have this kind of anti-OSWM flavor.  Most recently Torrie Wilson and Trish Stratus got This IS What We Came To See! which gives them some leeway to play actions without (much) fear.  For those that dislike OSWM to a high degree - have you tried playing with this card vs. OSWM TB?  Did it have the desired effect? 
Virtual Raw Deal / Re: 2020 Bottom of the Barrel Thread
« Last post by NJDevil18 on January 29, 2020, 07:40:43 AM »
in regards to necrobaron and drywall, I guess I was trying too hard to build him B2B.
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