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Whao. Something golden from the much frowned upon Divas Overload. I would have taken up the suggestion but sadly, it was just a one time thing where i borrowed the set from my friend. However, that card would be in my list when I am short of cards for divas without maneuver restrictions:) Thanks!

Nice Dupree deck you got there btw. Personally I feel that Dupree has got a whole bunch of things thrown at him. If anyone could play it out well, it is a very good superstar. His support cards are decent as well:)

Yup. Thousand ways to counter the deck. But I suppose the deck can run without it as well, just not as smooth. Any volley is actually easy to reverse using the volley effect. Chose it for the Stun only. Haha

Yup:) the idea is very dependent on 1 card and that ain't really gd. But still, it's my style to play weird decks like this. Surprise factor is there. Stay tune for another weird deck next time!

Hi there! Its me again, but this time with a deck that has been trialed and tested:) Haven't seen a classic GK MH deck on TCO so I thought I could contribute alil on my part:)

This deck was initially running on major announcement but it went towards a more.... unorthodox way. We had a small fatal 4 last man standing game a few days back with customized rules and this deck was the last woMAN standing:) Without further adieu...

Gail Kim (mostly) and Molly Holly Smackdown/Face/FF

Prematch (10)
Managed by Lita
Unorthodox Style of Wrestling
Underrated Superstar (tb)
Asset Retrieval
Control Your World
Trash Talkin' Interview (tb)
Bra & Panties Match
For the Love of The Game x 3 (IAATG Meta)

Midmatch (10)
Break It Out, Break You Down, Breakin' Rules, Breakin' Ground
Skirt the Issue
Introduce Your Brain to Your Mouth...
Panic Grab
It Doesn't Stop
You're as Graceful as a Cow on Ice
Ready to Fight

Maneuvers (25)
Girly Grab
Clutch onto Opponent x 3
Girly Punch x 2
Modified Clutch Onto Opponent x 3
Claw x 2
Girly Slap x 2 (Would change this to 2 girly grabs if i had it)
Double Axe Handle (tb) x 3
Spinning Leg Drop x 3
Flying Clothesline (tb) x 3
Missile Dropkick (tb) x 3

A Revolution of the Mind x 3
Elbow to the Face x 3
Once is Enough x 2
Sloppy ... Very Sloppy x 3
Always Have a Plan B x 3
Volley This! x 2
No Chance in Hell! (tb)
Hold the Phone!
Don't Try This at Home
It's Great To Be Back Here In...
I Gotta Say, Out of Play
Sidewalk Slam (tb)
Lift a Boot (tb) x 2
Overshot Your Mark

Actions (10)
From the Middle Turnbuckle x 4
I've Got a Nice ... Bottom x 3
Everyone Wants to Watch Women, Period x 2
Technical Bear Hug

The whole deck revolves around the use of Unorthodox style of wrestling. Prematch wise, I would drop Lita, control, asset retrieval, underrated and most importantly, unorthodox style of wrestling.

The deck is simple as it ran diva moves to connect with the high risks. The initial plan of using major announcement failed miserably after i went out of hand due to discarding and the lack of drawing of stuns (cause it was almost nonexistent). Making use of control your world and my ability to have -3f for high risks, i could easily connect either double axe handle or spinning even if i play clutch cause its +2d courtesy of control your world. Draw off Managed by Lita and stun value for maximum handsize.

Even with an initial crap hand, I get to use Lita to get my double axe handle tb and asset retrieval for modified clutch. Take a peek at opponent's hand to know what to expect, completing the turn with a double axe handle that can't be reversed from hand. Draw off Lita and hopefully stun and whao, 10f right away. The middle turnbuckles are there for the purpose of picking up high risks that were somehow unsuccessful, either from the volley effect or from superstars with backlash deck 0f reversals aka for real, you think you know me etc..

Although the deck lacks trademarks, the 'cannot reverse from hand' really seals the victory.. unorthodox style :)
I have a similar concept but with another superstar. If anyone is interested I could post it up as well. Otherwise, thanks and have a nice day!

Welcome (back) to Raw Deal / Re: Need help for several questions!
« on: July 12, 2015, 06:03:13 PM »
Got it! Thanks for the reply guys:)

Welcome (back) to Raw Deal / Re: Need help for several questions!
« on: July 12, 2015, 09:32:19 AM »
Noted with thanks @debuRaito!

What about question 2? Can the overturning effect be cancelled by lets wrestle already even though the card cant be reversed?

Thanks for the prompt reply! What about my second question? Hasn't happened to me yet but just curious to find out.

Welcome (back) to Raw Deal / Need help for several questions!
« on: July 12, 2015, 08:27:44 AM »
Hi guys, got a few questions that my friends and I have stumbled on. Bolded question is included in post edit.

1) Premiere wwf/e superstar
Can the effect be reversed by lets wrestle already? Based on OmniFAQ, it says no, because of the wording as it is more of a 'discard x cards into ringside pile' rather than overturn. However, wouldn't this be very overpowered for a superstar with high value eg. evolution who packs as many titles as possible or immortal with his pre match. Also, how do we stop this effect assuming the card isnt blanked.

2) Dirty taker.
Assuming above mentioned is played by undertaker, would lets wrestle already reverse and end taker's turn? Dirty taker cant be reversed, but can its overturning effect be reversed?

3) Spike dudley/Big Show
Assuming eg. Triple H switches ability by white wedding with spike dudley, would HHH be able to play grapple and submission? Similarly, if Big show's opponent white wedding big show, can he play high risk?

Thanks in advance for answering the above queries!

General Discussion: Raw Deal / Re: Thoughts?
« on: July 03, 2015, 11:57:29 AM »
First off, thanks for doing so much for this community. Really really appreciate very very much.

Just my 2 cents, cause SS3 cards makes up a majority of all the cards. I myself am waiting for the SS3 cards to be up before I make any purchases. I believe that ppl who have got to know you on eBay will know that you have a shop that's open.

For starters, maybe you can try to include your website on your eBay page, or at least create some buzz there so that people who are used to visit you on eBay will know that you have a shop dedicated for raw deal.

Also, I'm sure business will pick up in the future when all your items are up. Good luck and thanks!

Welcome (back) to Raw Deal / Re: No show and Best laid plans
« on: June 20, 2015, 09:12:50 AM »
Thanks for the confirmation :)

Deck Reviews - Classic / Re: BASH Benoit help!
« on: June 20, 2015, 09:12:05 AM »
That's a great idea. Would definitely use that for my bash decks in the future.

If that's the case, I would suggest replacing aerial clothesline with either pin hold or over ropes. Both are painful in its own way, and can also be used in different situations.

Deck Reviews - Classic / Re: BASH Benoit help!
« on: June 20, 2015, 09:03:19 AM »
Had a bash Benoit/crippler in my head for awhile so it's great to see one here for me to use as reference in the future.

I don see a purpose in having a no show in a bash deck as you don't have heel cards. Also, vince gra is redundant as your victim of crippler can block any stips from being played.

For you Backlash deck, I feel that best technical is a waste of space as you are not running mono type. I think you would end up doing more hurt to urself than gd by pulling 3 cards. Shoot counter can't be activated either as there ain't any shoot cards in your deck except for shoot lock up, which is still not a gaurentee card that could be played successfully. I suggest adding Trevor Murdoch and/or bash great American style in replacement.

Deck wise not much to comment. I guess it's done up like this to suit your play grp style. Only addition I could think of is adding in its great to be back here in....

Welcome (back) to Raw Deal / Re: No show and Best laid plans
« on: June 20, 2015, 08:54:41 AM »
Oooo...... That makes so much sense now. Guess we've been reading the text wrong even after so long. Thanks for the replies Buddha dudley and dilbert:)

Welcome (back) to Raw Deal / Re: No show and Best laid plans
« on: June 20, 2015, 06:40:28 AM »
If any player first reveals a Heel card in his hand, he instead draws to his printed Starting Hand Size +2.

 Extracted from the text.

What you are saying is that it doesn't matter whether who is first but as long as anyone has a Heel they can reveal and their HS is +2?

Welcome (back) to Raw Deal / No show and Best laid plans
« on: June 19, 2015, 10:41:13 PM »
Hi, not sure if it's the correct thread to ask, but I got a query about the cards in the title.

Best laid plan

How do we determine who reveals the heel card first? Fastest finger first? Or is there a sequence to resolving this.

For now my play grp is just using rock paper scissors to determine the winner assuming both gets heel cards in their hand

A no show

If I play an old switcheroo, can I swap in an applicable Pre match in for a no show?

Deck Reviews - Classic / Re: Jake The Snake Idea?
« on: June 19, 2015, 07:16:15 PM »
My fren @daveldy ran a very well oiled old sch psycho Prematch tactic to limit handsize. Uses his ability to limit Reversals to get to 30f, does a lucifer into a precision kick and a victory roll. Hard to beat. Alternate way would be to blatant into snack bite DDT or throw in a surprise Tornado DDT off middle turnbuckle.
And like I commented in another thread, I strongly suggest anyone who plays product and old sch psycho to run face the music. Awesome face action card that does wonders.

Btw, since it's a face chain deck, face the music is extremely apt cause you will have 3 face Prematch plus face the music itself. So for a 2f, you will make you opponent discard 4 cards.

Best way to prevent it is to play it first. Depending on ur own play circle actually. My circle doesn't have gra so I only pack managed by vince so I can prevent them from playing it. Managed my Eric stops McMahon cards but not worth using it for this deck.

No angle German  and Moonsault? I think you should get some anti vInce cards to protect your invitational as well. Just my 2cents:)

Looks like alot of fun! Possible to post the deck list for Jerry Lawler? know it didnt exactly do very well but just interested to see how it was played in this tourney.

Hey Jaz! Hope you reply my message soon!

Thanks lots and gd luck for this tourney! :)

Deck Reviews - Classic / Re: Jerry Lawler deck review
« on: June 07, 2015, 04:51:29 PM »
Thanks daeva for the clarification!

Deck Reviews - Classic / Re: Jerry Lawler deck review
« on: June 07, 2015, 09:18:04 AM »
Thanks for the feedback! Will look out for the things you highlighted.

I have a question to raise though. Saw this o the OMNIFAQ found on comic images. Wondering if there is a change, or the ruling still stands:)

'-His Superstar Value may be modified from his printed value (#), but ‘#’ will always equal his opponent’s Superstar Value.  EXAMPLE: Lawler plays the European Title, his SSV will always be 1 greater than his opponent.'

Anyway, I've reformed my Jerry Lawler deck again since the last one failed miserably.
Will update with deck list in the future!

Deck Reviews - Classic / Re: Jerry Lawler deck review
« on: June 01, 2015, 07:16:17 AM »
Im backkkkk... With another version of Jerry. Took the advise from Creed and tried out a High-risk type. Haven't test played with the deck yet but looks promising to me. Please feel free to criticize or comment!

Jerry Lawler/SD/Face

Backstage Area(1)
Kings Crown

Washington DC*
Trash Talking Interview (TB)*
Managed by Vince McMahon (TB)*
Product Endorsement*
Giving em High fives (non-TB)*
Technically Sound and Brutal x 2*
Its Showtime*
Banned From Ringside
You Rang?

Introduce your brain to your mouth
Victory Roll
Teaser Mode x 2
Technical Shoot x 3
Break it Out Break it down


Falling Fist x 3
Technical Stomp x 3
Technical Splash x 3
Technical Tope x 3
Splash (TB) x 2
Suicide Dive x 2
Shooting Star Press (TB) x 2
Suicide Lariat
Atomic Kneedrop

Face the Music
...And the Crowd Roars
You Feeling Lucky? (TB) x 2
Shoot Action x 2
Puppies Puppies (TB) x 3
The Straps are Down

Revolution of the Mind x 3
Lift a boot (TB)
Overshot Your Mark x 2
Inside Cradle
Nerve Hold
Volley This x 2
No Chance in Hell (TB)
Elbow to the Face x 3
Hold the Phone x 2
I gotta say, Outta Play
Here Comes the Coach
Once is Enough x 3
Sloppy.. Very Sloppy x 3
Sidewalk Slam (TB) x 2
Escape to the Side
Don't Try This At Home
Its Great to be back here in...

* represent prematch to be played. If I go first, I will drop Washington for Feeling Lucky (TB). If I go second, I will Showtime.
Most actions in the deck are multi so its easier to connect to the high risks.

If I see that after trashing away 1 reversal, he still has reversals for my falling fist, I will activate teaser mode to pull a Feeling Lucky into a falling fist. Afterwhich, its just a matter of who hits harder and reverses more.

Let me know how I can improve my deck as I'm afraid I don't have enough firepower to kill off his deck.

Do let me know it there is anything I can improve on! Till then,

Have a nice day!

Deck Reviews - Classic / Re: Jerry Lawler deck review
« on: May 24, 2015, 12:29:41 AM »
Just an update on deck, I have won all 4 matches so far via 1 inferno, 1 backslide(stun), 1 TIJTB and backfire.

Overall I feel this deck is versatile as I manage to pull of the victory without inferno and/or IAATG. However, I am looking to improve a method of recursion that could save me from being burned out. The major weakness of this deck is that it cannot sponge maneuvers that cannot be reversed from arsenal due to the deck build where cards are supposed to be reversed from arsenal. That is why I pack hybrid reversals and always have plan B.
Lastly, I realise that I am quite screwed if my opponent reverses my falling fist the first time round. Although I can play the 5 TIJTB, i would have to burn 5 cards before my reversals in the deck can be of any use.

Would appreciate if anyone can give their inputs:) Thanks and till then,

Have a nice day!

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