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Deck Reviews - Revolution / <R> Batista non storyline
« on: August 06, 2018, 07:39:32 AM »
Been quite awhile since there's a post in this section!

This Batista deck went 7-0 in the recent tournament using its original ability to drop opponent's hand, so the deck was formed revolving around that. That said, it wasn't completely filled with Throws as other maneuvers fitted better to the discard theme.

Backlash (12)

Pre-match (6) - played in order. Skip 1 RP: Leg and Mo1KM if opponent plays Royal Rumble first
A Ruckus at Ringside
Ring Psychology: Leg x 2
Man of 1000 Moves - Search for Snap Bulldog or Scissors Hold
WWE Heavyweight Title Belt

Mid-match (6)
You Hit Like a Girl
Before This Gets Out Of Hand
Slow The Match Down To A Crawl
Talk is Cheap
A Thousand Years of Anger
Arm Drag

Arsenal (60)

Maneuvers (27)
Scissors Hold - Back up just in case
Scoop Slam x 3 - Only recovery cards in the deck other than Demon Bomb
Snap Bulldog x 3
Leg Drag x 3 - This was the main reason I went RP: Leg. You drop 1, but opponent drops 2 random.
Jaw Jammer x 3 - Target Head and Leg always goes together since its reversed by the same defense card. Similarly, you drop 1, opponent drops 2 random.
Snap Mare x 3 - Best card for Batista. Opponent drops 1 random for ability and 2 for the card effect
Knee Breaker x 2 - Finding your painful leg maneuvers. Its a Throw too!
Double Leg Lock Crab x 2 - Almost every deck's must have, and its Leg too
Steel Chain Shot x 3 - Its Leg, and forces opponent to discard 2 if he reverses from hand or backlash
Desperate Throw
The Animal Clothesline
The Hanging Tree
The Demon Bomb

Reversal (33)
The Second Solution x 3
Only One Solution x 2
Try To Get Away x 3
I Won't Be Beat Tonight x 2
Masochist Of The Heart
You Telegraphed It
Inside this Pits Of Danger
Why Don't You Kiss My Ass
My Way
Welcome To My World
Outmaneuver x 2
Off Your Mark x 2
Two For The Show
Head To Toe Defense x 3
Lateral Flank Defense x 3
Centered Defense x 3
The Guardian Powerlsam
The Evolved Spinebuster

The deck is fairly simple. Whatever you draw and in your Fort range can be played. But keeping count of your opponent's handsize can help you make better decisions. Force discards like Snap Mare and Steel Chain Shot will put your opponent in the tough spot, and luring their Try To Get Aways with your Double Leg Lock Crab is good too since they have to discard 2 for that reversal.

The deck did lack in recovery and Extreme Reversals, but the best offense is the best defense. (other than the 9 defense cards of cause)

Tournament Reports / SG Virtual Revolution Cycle 5: Summerslam 2018
« on: August 05, 2018, 09:37:45 AM »

It was a hectic pre-tournament because our venue host 'suddenly' had an event and there weren't any spaces left for us. Luckily we had a player that arrived early to check out the venue and sound out before the actual tournament started. We eventually got a venue, but we had to pay to use it, much to the dismay of players. That aside, we had our usual turnout of 8 players for our Summerslam Tournament, and congrats to Sheila for being a 2 time champ for this cycle. De Hao walked away with Lucky Draw 1 of an alt art Faction Set, while Zac walked away with a foil Alt Art VTK C Revo WWE World Heavyweight Title Belt.

This tournament had a special rule since it was a big 4 PPV, so we could only play superstars of SSV 4 and above. Overall, it was nice to see a tournament where half of the superstars are from the Comic Images printed era. Most superstars have been played a few times now, but thankfully everyone made the effort to play something they havent played before, and that is something I would like to commend about this playgroup. Although we have a rule set that we won't allow players to reuse the same superstar within the cycle, the players have thus far been exploring different superstars, and playing different styles. The amount of effort to do so clearly shows sportsmanship. There was even instances where a player lamented that his maneuver should have been reversed but he forgot to inform his opponent. I think that games are best played when the main goal was not to capitalize on opponent's lack of knowledge, but instead to have a fun time together.

End of the day, everyone walked out happy, because the scores were secondary, and what mattered more the 2hours+ of games. Looking forward to our next tournament in Sept!

Till next month, onward with the <R>evolution!

Updated Excel with all the score tallies and results from all our tournaments:

1st: Sheila Batista: 7-0
2nd: Keith Rob Van Dam: 6-1
3rd: Zac Undertaker: 5-2
4th: Calvin The Rock: 4-3
5th: Joewi Ric Flair: 3-4
6th: Wen Huan Chris Jericho: 2-5
7th: De Hao Rey Mysterio: 1-6
8th: Dhillon Sheamus: 0-7

Batista (P) vs Rob Van Dam
Batista (P) vs Undertaker
Batista (P) vs The Rock
Batista (P) vs Ric Flair
Batista (P) vs Chris Jericho
Batista (P) vs Rey Mysterio
Batista (P) vs Sheamus
Rob Van Dam (P) vs Undertaker
Rob Van Dam (P) vs The Rock
Rob Van Dam (P) vs Ric Flair
Rob Van Dam (P) vs Chris Jericho
Rob Van Dam (P) vs Rey Mysterio
Rob Van Dam (P) vs Sheamus
Rob Van Dam vs Batista (P)
Undertaker (P) vs The Rock
Undertaker (P) vs Ric Flair
Undertaker (P) vs Chris Jericho
Undertaker (P) vs Rey Mysterio
Undertaker (P) vs Sheamus
Undertaker vs Batista (P)
Undertaker vs Rob Van Dam (P)
The Rock (P) vs Ric Flair
The Rock (P) vs Chris Jericho
The Rock (P) vs Rey Mysterio
The Rock (P) vs Sheamus
The Rock vs Batista (P)
The Rock vs Rob Van Dam (P)
The Rock vs Undertaker (P)
Ric Flair (P) vs Chris Jericho
Ric Flair (P) vs Rey Mysterio
Ric Flair (P) vs Sheamus
Ric Flair vs Batista (P)
Ric Flair vs Rob Van Dam (P)
Ric Flair vs Undertaker (P)
Ric Flair vs The Rock (P)
Chris Jericho (P) vs Rey Mysterio
Chris Jericho (P) vs Sheamus
Chris Jericho vs Batista (P)
Chris Jericho vs Rob Van Dam (P)
Chris Jericho vs Undertaker (P)
Chris Jericho vs The Rock (P)
Chris Jericho vs Ric Flair (P)
Rey Mysterio (P) vs Sheamus
Rey Mysterio vs Batista (P)
Rey Mysterio vs Rob Van Dam (P)
Rey Mysterio vs Undertaker (P)
Rey Mysterio vs The Rock (P)
Rey Mysterio vs Ric Flair (P)
Rey Mysterio vs Chris Jericho (P)

Sheamus vs Batista (P)
Sheamus vs Rob Van Dam (P)
Sheamus vs Undertaker (P)
Sheamus vs The Rock (P)
Sheamus vs Ric Flair (P)
Sheamus vs Chris Jericho (P)
Sheamus vs Rey Mysterio (P)

Some pictures of the event:

Updated End Cycle Score Tally:

On a side note, I just wanted to put this out there for all Revo The Rock Superstars to pack at least some Core reversals. My RVD got almost 30F from Filling in the Blanks and the blank text Core/reversal hybrids on turn 1. Rock still managed to get his starting fort but by then I hand a ton of fort and hit in 3 consecutive Extreme Brutal Beatdowns for the win.

If you need the starters content, here you go:

Fully Loaded:

But beyond that, playing without backlash is quite distant from what everyone is playing, so its best if you can fall back to the starters and build up from there :)

Glad to hear that!

Or should i say....


Virtual Raw Deal / Does Revo Matt Hardy need to be relooked at?
« on: July 31, 2018, 06:56:28 AM »
Before I continue, just want to say that I respect the creators and playtesters of the game for everything, and that to me this is just 1 bad egg in the entire basket.

I am just sharing what I think about <R> Matt Hardy, and see if there is any chance for improvement in the next review in 2019.
<R> Matt Hardy
Superstar Ability:
Once during each of your turns, you may overturn 3 cards (when you have have fewer cards in hand, 2 cards): draw 1 card.
When packing non-Revolution cards: you can pack Matt Facts.
Having played <R> Matt Hardy and see other players play it locally, as well as feedback from other players internationally, we seem to conclude that the said superstar does not possess the ability and cards required to be on par with other well balanced superstars.
Looking at the ability to overturn 3 (or 2) to draw 1 seems ok if it’s a standalone.
It is optional, so players can choose not to use it at all, but that kind of defeats the purpose as well.
Compared to Terry Funk, Elijah Burke, John Cena, Brock Lesnar, Chris Jericho, Sheamus and The Wyatt Family who can draw under conditions that do not hurt them, Matt’s ability seems like a drawback rather than a bonus to use.
Although there are many recovery cards (both Antics and Maneuvers) out there, it seems unfair that Matt has to do extra work and pay extra cost just to draw 1 card, when anyone with Climbing The Ladder, Ring Psychology Throw or McMahon Family Jewels can add cards to their hand on a regular basis (of cause with a cost), without getting hurt. Using his ability will give a -4 (or -3) from his arsenal, and that is contingent on the fact that the drawn card is of use to Matt.
<R> Version 1.0
Pre-match: Event
Your Superstar Value is +1 and your Pre-match Capacity is +1.
When you are Revolution Matt Hardy: you are an Extremist and when you play an Extreme: Follow-up, you may discard 2 cards and ignore the Follow-up, and when it is successfully played, shuffle 1 non-reversal card in your Ringside into your Arsenal.
Just my assumption, but his ability should be used to activate Version 1.0, allowing him to ignore follow-up for his ability.
Once again as a standalone, it doesn’t seem too bad because follow-ups usually cannot be played since the 1 st card is usually reversed. With this pre-match, he can skip pass that requirement.
Unlike other Follow-ups, Extreme Follow-ups actually get less reversals because the usual extreme reversal to pack, That’s Extremely Un-original, does not reverse Follow-up. That’s 1 less Extreme reversal to worry about.
That said, what costs Matt Hardy to get the effect is something other superstars get it for free or at lesser cost.
I am referring to Jeff Hardy who can totally ignore Follow-ups, or Kofi Kingston who can discard 1 to ignore Follow-up as well. Hardy Boyz get to continue their turn if required, while Jack Swagger can search for Follow-up but put it at the bottom of arsenal with his Pre-match if he can’t play it.
Setting Him Up, a non-superstar specific Pre-match, has the same effect although its unique and can only be played once.
Once again, Matt Hardy seems to fall short in this ‘advantage’ that he has.
<R> Incredible High Flyers
Pre-match: Faction
You can pack this card regardless of Superstar. Your Extreme: Follow-up: Maneuver cards are now Follow-up: Card instead, and when your antic with 'high flyer' in the text is unsuccessful, overturn 3 less cards for not playing a maneuver.
When your logo is on this card: your Pre-match Capacity is +1, you are considered an Extremist for your non-reversal card effects, and your Superstar-specific antics are considered to have 'high flyer' in the text.
Incredible High Flyers itself is an excellent card, changing Extreme: Follow-up: Maneuvers to Extreme: Follow-up: Card instead.
This lightens Matt Hardy’s load from using the Pre-match’s discard 2 effect, but he will still have to get his 1 st card to be successful.
The overturn 3 less is also beneficial, but that is an exchange that is just slightly more worthwhile. With his ability, his arsenal will be -4 or -3 and he has to discard 2 cards just to play a follow-up. That Follow-up can also be reversed as per normal. So essentially its costing 3 to 4 arsenal cards, 2 cards from hand, to play something that can be reversed as per normal.
Matt does have a strong reason to play Judgement Day, but that is usually reserved for superstars that do have storyline. Going a green wave after dropping that Talk is Cheap could be a good direction for the deck, but then again if any superstar can use the same tactic, it doesn't really make Matt very special too.

All in all, I am hoping that this gives the creators a reason to have a second look at this superstar again so that it is at least on par with the rest of the roster. Maybe, some superstars are just meant to be... BROKEN....

Tournament Announcements / Re: SG Virtual Revolution Cycle 5
« on: July 30, 2018, 10:17:18 AM »
Took me awhile to get the venue confirmed, but details for this Sunday's VR tournament is uploaded!
Note that since its Summerslam, one of the big 4 PPVs, the special stip for this tournament is that only superstars with SSV 4 and above are allowed.

Cya guys there!

General Discussion: Raw Deal / Re: Quick opinion poll
« on: July 20, 2018, 07:55:31 AM »
Same sentiments as Dilbert. That's what I'm doing for my Revo tourneys. All deck building cards less VTKs are freely available for people to download, so the playing field is balanced. Prizes should always be a bonus that doesn't give anyone an additional edge. As a matter of fact when I do internal tourney within my playgrp, the first place will always have a disadvantage in picking the next round of playable superstars so we prevent any winner's advantage. That said, the winner still takes home an alt art full set of his choice.

Tournament Announcements / Re: SG Virtual Revolution Cycle 5
« on: July 01, 2018, 12:38:48 PM »
Results for Extreme Rules posted here:,

Stay tuned for August's Summerslam tournament! We will be doing special stipulations for the PPV, and it has something to do with superstar values ;)


Good game to all 6 players for VR Extreme Rules! 3 last minute dropouts but that certainly didn't dampen the mood. We had a huge battle of Tag teams with Jerishow, Wyatt Family and the Shield, as will as well established world champions CM Punk, Randy Orton and Sandman.

As the dust settled, Wyatt Family prevailed with a score of 4-1, thus earning herself a Number 1 Contender status to cash in on any champion for the rest of the cycle.

Very high levels of sportsmanship seen as players proactively guided each other in their games. The champ walked away with an alt art revo superstar of his/her choice, while 2 lucky players will get 1 random TK and 1 alt art faction set. Needless to say everyone got a door gift for participation!

Looking forward to more people and more exciting games next month! If you are interested to pick the format up, do drop me a PM and we can work things out from there!

Till next month, onward with the <R>evolution!

Updated Excel:

The Wyatt Family (P) vs CM Punk
The Wyatt Family (P) vs Jerishow
The Wyatt Family (P) vs The Shield
The Wyatt Family (P) vs Randy Orton
The Wyatt Family vs Sandman (P)

Sandman (P) vs The Wyatt Family
Sandman (P) vs Randy Orton
Sandman (P) vs Jerishow
Sandman vs CM Punk (P)
Sandman vs Calvin (P)

Randy Orton (P) vs The Shield
Randy Orton (P) vs CM Punk
Randy Orton (P) vs Jerishow
Randy Orton vs The Wyatt Family (P)
Randy Orton vs Sandman (P)

CM Punk (P) vs The Shield
CM Punk (P) vs Sandman
CM Punk (P) vs Jerishow
CM Punk vs The Wyatt Family (P)
CM Punk vs Randy Orton (P)

The Shield (P) vs Jerishow
The Shield (P) vs Sandman
The Shield vs The Wyatt Family (P)
The Shield vs Randy Orton (P)
The Shield vs CM Punk (P)

Jerishow vs The Wyatt Family (P)
Jerishow vs Sandman (P)
Jerishow vs Randy Orton (P)
Jerishow vs CM Punk (P)
Jerishow vs The Shield (P)

Cycle 5 Score tally:

Virtual Raw Deal / Re: History of game changing cards
« on: June 29, 2018, 09:37:53 PM »
although I only started in Inx, I think Dirty Low Blow was a MUST PACK back in the day too

Tournament Announcements / SG Virtual Revolution Cycle 5
« on: June 24, 2018, 07:28:13 AM »

By now you should be familiar with what we do. Each cycle will consist of 5 to 6 monthly tournaments held in Virtual Revolution format. Your position and participation in each of those tournaments will earn you points that you will rank you in our end cycle prize. Last cycle, a total of 47 superstars were awarded to our 14 participants as end cycle prizes, excluding each tournament's individual winners. Will you be one of them to receive alt art superstars this cycle?  ;)

Individual tournament prize scheme:
1. Door gift for participation (free)
2. Lucky Draw after each tourney (free)
3. Alt art superstar set for top prize(s)
    6 or less participants: 1st place gets top prize
    7 or more participants: 1st and 2nd gets top prize
    10 or more participants: top 3 gets prize

End cycle prize scheme:
As per last few cycles, players will be ranked and split to 1st tier, 2nd tier and 3 tier.
1st tier prizes: 3 Revo superstars or 2 Revo 1 Classic superstar
2nd tier prizes: 2 Revo superstars or 1 Revo 1 Classic superstar
3rd tier prizes: 1 Revo superstar

Scoring and Ranking scheme:
To spice things up alittle, ranking for each tournament will no longer be decided by simple win lost ratio, but instead by opponent strength, which is the sum of all wins that your opponent get. Therefore if the 1st place has a score of 7-1, and that 1 lost went to the last place with a tally of 1-7, the last place will get 7 points, which was the total wins of the player that he/she won. We will then tally that score to rank players accordingly for that tournament. This ranking will directly affect your end cycle score and ranking too!

After consultation with players, we decided to stick to the old scoring system, but we agreed to use this cycle as a test bed to see if the above is worth pursuing. Therefore, every player will earn a score equals to his/her wins per tournament + 1. At the end of the cycle, we will sum up the scores for each individual to rank as per above.

July Tourney: Extreme Rules

Where: Monarch Affinity @ Orchard Gateway #04/09-10
When: 1st July 2018
Time: 2pm - 4pm
Door Gift: Staple reversals (1 each)
Lucky Draw: ECW Originals Faction
Top Prize(s): Alt art of winner's choice


August Tourney: Summerslam

Where: TOG Toys Or Games @ Bugis+ Level 5
When: 5th August 2018
Time: 2pm - 5pm
Special Stipulation: Only superstars with Superstar Value 4 and above are allowed
Door Gift: Staple reversals (1 each)
Lucky Draws: 1. 1 random alt art faction set, 2. 1 Virtual Tournament Kit C Revolution Prize
Top Prize(s): Alt art of winner's choice

Updated Excel:

September Tourney: Hell in a Cell

Where: Monarch Affinity #04-09/10
When: 8th September 2018
Time: 2pm - 5pm
Door Gift: Staple reversals (1 each)
Lucky Draws: (1) 1 x random alt art faction set, (2) 1 x One for the money set
Top Prize(s): Alt art of winner's choice

Updated Excel:

September Tourney: Super Showdown

Where: Sanctuary Gaming #04-09/10
When: 13th October 2018
Time: 2pm - 4pm
Door Gift: 1 X Masochist Of The Heart TB
Lucky Draws: (1) 1 x random alt art faction set, (2) 1 x One for the money set
Top Prize(s): Alt art of winner's choice

Updated Score as of 8th Sep 2018

Fantasy Cards / Re: WWF In Your House (11 Superstar Expansion Set)
« on: June 18, 2018, 07:38:45 AM »
They look awesome. Like Pill man's ability especially. But that said, Finding images would be a pain in the ass! I can't even find a Cactus double arm DDT that is not a screen grab.

Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual card error
« on: June 06, 2018, 08:28:19 AM »
Well we all know that no one uses Revo ;) Kudos to my friend for spotting it.

That said, maybe you can look to revise its text too? Follow-up is bad enough, and to be reversed as antic as well doesn't make it any better.

Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual card error
« on: June 06, 2018, 08:20:13 AM »
No biggie, just that colossal was spelt wrongly.

Tournament Announcements / Re: SG Virtual Revolution Cycle 4
« on: June 03, 2018, 09:14:02 AM »
Cycle 4 has just concluded with a 8 player game. The stipulation was a tricky one because players are forced to think around their usual builds to accommodate a Corner into their limited pre-match and arsenal. This cycle also saw a record 16 player turnout! I'm looking forward to meeting more new players in the future. Stay tuned as we announce cycle 5 in the coming weeks!

For more interesting statistics, you can check out this google spreadsheet to decide which superstars you can play around with:

On the other hand, if you are new and want to pick up revolution, RawDealSG Facebook page does weekly VR superstar reviews where we go into detail how each superstar is played. Since Rhyno won the last tourney, it was featured:

Tournament Announcements / Re: SG Virtual Revolution Cycle 4
« on: May 27, 2018, 04:45:18 AM »
Details for the final tournament for cycle 4 is up! In a bid to disrupt the normal game flow, a special play restriction has been implemented to spice things up. Looking forward to seeing interesting tech for this tourney! AND, since this is the last tournament, cycle 4 prizes would be collated and announced soon too. Stay tuned ;)

General Discussion: Raw Deal / Re: Database??
« on: May 19, 2018, 05:05:41 AM »
You can use this excel too. Its basically from Lackey, but I added the ACE/RMS column because there wasn't an identifier for that in lackey.

Rules Forum / Re: Constant Checking VS One Time Effect
« on: May 11, 2018, 10:27:31 AM »
Believe it's this card.

Managed by Eric Bischoff

Pre-match Manager

At the end of the Pre-match phase, search your Arsenal for the card titled Did I Just Say…Three Minutes?, reveal it to your opponent, put it into your hand, and shuffle your Arsenal.

All players’ cards with the word “McMahon” in the title are considered to have blank text.

RAW logo

Universally Unique

F: 0      D: 0

Welcome (back) to Raw Deal / Re: Rulebook?
« on: April 30, 2018, 05:59:32 PM »
V20 Great American Bash was the last expansion. That rule book should include BASH, Fan Favourite and cheater. If you dont intend to play those now, then v17 is good enougj

Tournament Announcements / Re: SG Virtual Revolution Cycle 4
« on: April 28, 2018, 09:54:16 AM »
The May tournament details are up.

Looking forward to seeing you guys there!

So yeah, you nailed 6 of the Superstars and I've announced 2 others.  That leaves 14 - (6 + 2) = 6 Superstars, and when you figure the time frame that this was designed from, the last 6 names won't be that surprising.  :)


6 from EricRD + 2 from Creed:
Mojo Rawley
The Ascension
Tyler Breeze
Adrian Neville
Bo Dallas
Finn Balor

With 6 slots left and the hint being PPVs around this period, here's the list of superstars narrowed down to the few PPVs around Feb 14 (NXT Arrival). I could be on to something, or totally off, but this is afterall just speculation! No points for guessing them wrong or right, but i did mark my guesses!

Royal Rumble (Jan 14): only El Torito surprisingly
Elimination Chamber (Feb 14): Curtis Axel, Cameron, Tamina Snuka, Zeb Colter?!?. There's Christian* too... so a legend version could be possible!
Wrestlemania (Apr 14): Los Matadores, Real Americans, Rybaxel, Aksana, Alicia Fox (would love to see her)*, Eva Marie*, Naomi*, Rosa Mendes, Yoshi Tatsu and Brad Maddox
NXT Takeover (May 14): Adam Rose, Camacho, Tyson Kidd*
NXT Takeover II (Sep 14): Lucha Dragons*, Bull Dempsey, Sylvester Lefort

What kind of guide do you think the general public would need for revo? I'm all in for creating that! :) in fact I already have an excel with the different styles of Reversals to choose from. Alternatively you can check out the general discussion in rawdealsg.proboards .com where I broke down all the cards. Different reversal styles, different target tactics, different types of maneuvers to focus on etc.. But that was before VR5 release so mayb just 90% of the stuff still stand.

There are plenty of things to reverse that can't be stopped by normal Reversals. There's stuff like Boot Lace that you need douchebag or carlito to reverse, and then there's don't try his at home for ace, and Reversals for multis. Some may even pack powerslam TB or Spinebusters to deal damage while reversing.

Good example would be the recent YouTube upload by EricRD. He match between heidenreich and Alberto saw 3 powerslam TB put into play as reversals

I'll do 25 maneuvers 5 - 10 actions and 25 - 30 reversals

Rules Forum / Re: Blue Blazer Qns
« on: April 20, 2018, 06:11:08 AM »
What if he doesnt pack any volley cards in the first place? Meaning it's a bash deck. That should be fine?

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