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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual Holiday: Then, Now, Forever
« on: December 26, 2019, 07:36:47 AM »
Yes. Any deck whose ability is a ____ Superstar Ability is a Superstar. All the ones you mentioned, as well as Diva Superstars, Cruiserweight Superstars, Rookie Superstars, Legend Superstars, Throwback Superstars, and Stable Superstars, would be impacted by this card. Extremists are the primary exception, as their cards are printed with an Extremist Ability instead. The other exceptions I can identify at the moment are Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, who has a Movie Star Ability, and The Sexy Beast, who has a Huge Rock Star Ability. Note that these cards similarly cannot be affected by things like White Wedding, as they do not have a Superstar Ability to switch.

For the same reason, are these extremist, movie star, huge rock star considered superstar of their respective gender for the "watch" cards played by other non-lacey decks (e.g. trish, torrie etc)?

They are considered of that gender, but again, unless their card says ____ Superstar Ability, they are not Superstars. The Sexy Beast is a Male Huge Rock Star; Chris Jericho is a Male Superstar. If Trish Stratus plays a Watch card against The Sexy Beast, the card would do nothing, as he is Male, but not a Superstar. (You may want to do this, if you have a card that can only be played after a successfully played action, for example; in this case, if not reversed, none of the criteria on the card would be met, it would resolve to the Ring, and you would then be free to play your next card.)

(Side note for superstars and gender, from the Omni-FAQ: superstars are considered male if at least one wrestler depicted on the card is male, such as with Right to Censor or the Hart Dynasty. A superstar is considered female if all wrestlers depicted on the card are female, for example Lay-Cool or Gail Kim & Molly Holly.)

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual Holiday: Then, Now, Forever
« on: December 26, 2019, 07:09:21 AM »
Yes. Any deck whose ability is a ____ Superstar Ability is a Superstar. All the ones you mentioned, as well as Diva Superstars, Cruiserweight Superstars, Rookie Superstars, Legend Superstars, Throwback Superstars, and Stable Superstars, would be impacted by this card. Extremists are the primary exception, as their cards are printed with an Extremist Ability instead. The other exceptions I can identify at the moment are Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, who has a Movie Star Ability, and The Sexy Beast, who has a Huge Rock Star Ability. Note that these cards similarly cannot be affected by things like White Wedding, as they do not have a Superstar Ability to switch.

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual Holiday: Then, Now, Forever
« on: December 25, 2019, 07:11:22 PM »
Hey, everyone. I stayed out of this discussion temporarily while I was double checking my interpretation, but I wanted to issue a clarification here. Eric's misinterpreted how the "Watch Women" cards interact with Lacey's ability and Act Like a Lady.

To pull in the relevant card text:


LACEY EVANS
Starting Hand Size: 5     Superstar Value: 1
Superstar Ability: You may pack cards as if you are a Diva, but you do not count as a Diva. Your cards with 'diva', 'woman' or 'female' in the text or title are considered to have 'lady' in the title. During each of your turns, you may overturn 2 cards to put 1 card with 'lady' in the title removed from the game into your hand.

Act Like a Lady
Pre-match Event
Cannot be blanked. Ignore 'male' and 'female' in the text of your non-Multi cards with 'lady' in the title. Your unsuccessfully played cards with 'lady' in title are removed from the game.
ACE: Once during each of your turns, you may put 1 non-Mid-match card with 'lady' in the title from your Ring under your Superstar card and then draw 1 card. Your maneuvers with 'lady' in the title are +1D for every card under your Superstar card.
F: 0     D: 0     Unique     Permanent     

Everyone Wants to Watch Women Wrestle
Action
Can only be packed by a Female Superstar.
When your opponent is a Male Superstar, search his Arsenal for 3 non-unique Maneuver cards, remove them from the game, and he shuffles his Arsenal.
When your opponent is a Female Superstar, this card is -1F, discard this card and your opponent discards 1 card.
Raw logo
F: 1      D: 0

Everyone Wants to Watch Women, Period
Action
Can only be packed by a Female Superstar.
When your opponent is a Male Superstar, he discards 3 cards.
When your opponent is a Female Superstar, this card is -1F, discard this card and draw 1 card.
SmackDown! logo
F: 1      D: 0

Now, the Watch cards (I'll call them that for simplicity's sake) are made into 'lady' cards by Lacey's ability. At this juncture, Act Like a Lady takes effect, and the words "male" and "female" are ignored.

What you have now is the following:

Everyone Wants to Watch Women Wrestle, Lady
Action
Can only be packed by a Female Superstar.
When your opponent is a Male Superstar, search his Arsenal for 3 non-unique Maneuver cards, remove them from the game, and he shuffles his Arsenal.
When your opponent is a Female Superstar, this card is -1F, discard this card and your opponent discards 1 card.
Raw logo
F: 1      D: 0

Lady, Everyone Wants to Watch Women, Period
Action
Can only be packed by a Female Superstar.
When your opponent is a Male Superstar, he discards 3 cards.
When your opponent is a Female Superstar, this card is -1F, discard this card and draw 1 card.
SmackDown! logo
F: 1      D: 0

Leaving aside the edge case where Lacey's opponent is not a Superstar (i.e. Extremists), all of the criteria on the card are met. The card calculates Fortitude costs in step 2A, and the cost is reduced by 1 (leaving aside, for the moment, any outside effects that might further impact the card.) The fact that the Fortitude reduction appears in the third paragraph of the text box is irrelevant; Fortitude reduction is typically placed first for ease of reading, but that is a convention, not a requirement of the rules.

At this point, when the card is successful, it looks to see if the opponent is a Superstar. This is normally the case, and each effect triggers in turn. So, for Watch Women Wrestle, once the card is successful, Lacey will search for 3 non-unique maneuvers and remove them from the game, the Arsenal is shuffled, Lacey will discard EWWWWW, and the opponent will discard 1 card. For Watch Women Period, Lacey's opponent will discard 3 cards, Lacey will discard EWWWWP, and Lacey will then draw 1 card.

There is no choosing of effects; there is only a check to see if the opponent is a Superstar or not. If they are, all effects will trigger in turn; if they are not, the card does nothing. Little She Devil is not an appropriate precedent, because that card's modular nature is indicated by the word or in its rules text. The Watch cards do not have or listed, nor is there a "choose one" anywhere on the card. You simply do everything.

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Rules Forum / Re: New rules moderator
« on: December 17, 2019, 05:05:39 PM »
Thank you! I'll try not to let the power go to my head, and promise to only occasionally issue rulings that directly benefit me. ;D

No, seriously, I'm happy to help in any way I can.

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Fantasy Cards / Re: Reverend D-Von
« on: December 10, 2019, 12:16:03 PM »
I love it but can you ignore text of a card that has RMS?

You cannot. I don't know if this passes rules muster, but I'd write it something like "When your opponent has Old School Wrestling Match in his ring, and a turn would be skipped, instead end that turn before the Draw Segment."

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Rules Forum / Re: the manbeast of nxt
« on: December 03, 2019, 01:15:05 PM »
No, they are only considered F:0 for Rhyno-specific cards and effects. They remain F:1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 for the purpose of playing them. In order for them to receive a discount when played, the text would be "Your F:5- maneuvers... are F:0 and Foreign Objects" or "are F:0 and considered Foreign Objects for your other Rhyno-specific cards and effects."

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Rules Forum / Re: RFG cards public knowledge? Or semi public?
« on: November 28, 2019, 11:22:36 AM »
To add, the only areas that are NOT public knowledge are your Arsenal, your Backlash, and your hand.  The Ring, Ringside, Backstage Area, and cards removed from the game are all public.  (I think that's all of them!)

CREED

Aside from corner cases for specific superstars, like Rick Rude’s Allegiance deck and R Truth’s Little Jimmy deck, and zones created by cards, like That’s Broken, I think you’re right.

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Rules Forum / Re: Managed by Jimmy vs multi?
« on: November 28, 2019, 10:04:10 AM »
ACE'ing Jimmy from your ring will already Completely reverse a multi.

True, but if your opponent ignores completely, as some do, Jimmy can be activated twice.

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Rules Forum / Re: GM ability clarification
« on: November 28, 2019, 08:22:21 AM »
Correct.

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Rules Forum / Re: Maneuvers/cards from ringside Aces?
« on: November 28, 2019, 08:22:03 AM »
Effects from zones that are not the Ring cannot, by definition, be ACEs, even effects like the Brothers of Destruction card whose name I can’t remember (Hellraisers to the End, maybe?) that move from the Ring to other zones, can be triggered from either zone, and are ACEs in the Ring. They cannot be reversed from other zones with ACE reversals.

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Rules Forum / Re: Managed by Jimmy vs multi?
« on: November 28, 2019, 08:19:51 AM »
Yes, you may, provided Jimmy is otherwise a valid reversal.

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Rules Forum / Re: RFG cards public knowledge? Or semi public?
« on: November 28, 2019, 08:19:11 AM »
You assume incorrectly. RFG is public knowledge.

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Rules Forum / Re: Question about Allegiances
« on: November 23, 2019, 03:27:32 PM »
That seems weird since shakedown is part of the wwe.

It's no weirder than being able to play Hair Pull on Steve Austin. The Allegiance Phase works exactly the same way as the Venue, Feud, Stipulation, and Manager phases, in that you may only play one card with that subtype during that phase. At this point, the only two exceptions are Rick Rude, as mentioned, and NWO T-Shirt, which explicitly states on the card how it can replace another allegiance mid-game.

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Online Play / Re: OCTGN Errors/Updates/Suggestions
« on: November 22, 2019, 11:54:41 PM »
The DX face card is missing.

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Rules Forum / Re: Stun Value Questions
« on: November 21, 2019, 11:08:38 AM »
One thing to note is that as a general rule (This also applies to things like Edge & Christian's ability) you have to decide how many you'll draw, then draw that number, rather than drawing them one at a time until you get what you want.

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Note that there is one exception: Rick Rude may pack both in his Allegiance deck, and may switch between them as provided for on that card. Outside of that, no.

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Classic Raw Deal / Re: Raw Deal Cube
« on: October 22, 2019, 12:50:11 PM »
what would be the ideal cube size for a 4 man cube draft? i plan to build virtual classic format only cube

I'd recommend building a full cube as described here, with whatever changes you feel appropriate to make it VC. Having the larger pool of cards to construct packs out of makes each draft a bit more random and individualized, so it's not as easy to project who might have what based on what you've seen going around (there are more cards that could theoretically have come out of packs before you see them, frex, since you also have to account for the cards not pulled out of the box to form into packs.) If there's a money/space/sleeves issue, then you could reasonably get away with as few as 300 draftable cards (15 cards per pack times 5 packs times 4 players) plus however many superstar options you want to include, but I recommend creating the full experience, and then simplifying from there.

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Online Play / Re: LackeyCCG Errors/Updates
« on: October 09, 2019, 03:41:41 PM »
Just checked a couple things.

* Ladies & Gentlemen... Elias is rendered as Ladies & Gentlemen? Elias
* Ladies & Gentlemen... Elias, Johnny Wrestling, This Is the Man's World, and Say Yeah! all have severe text issues: they all start with ", and only the first paragraph of each appears in the printed text line. (So, for example, Johnny Wrestling's text reads "Cannot be blanked.)

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual 10: Breaking Ground
« on: September 28, 2019, 11:43:46 PM »
The card looks nice. Will there be some spoilers for the support for older Superstars, too?

With how soon this is released after V9b there won’t be any support cards for previous sets.

Wasn't it said that V9b was not all the support that was planned and the rest would be in V10, because 9b took so long?

Quote from: CreedP
Yeesh, that took forever.... haha.  Well, here it is, the end of an era, leading to a new one.  Virtual 9 is finally wrapped up, though with a lighter volume than originally anticipated. 

But we wanted to wrap things up and move on, so a lot of the 'missing' Superstar support that wasn't finished (Drew McIntyre, Roman Reigns, Ambrose farewell card, The Bar) will show up down the road. Some things were ready because they were planned from the start (Jinder's cards, for example) or because they were 'shiny objects' that drew everyone's attention (Becky's I Am The Man or the new Club card).  It'd be great if there were more than 40 new cards, sorry about that.  It should be better in the future.

So here's the link to the full Virtual 9 set list, and the files are all in place and Ready for Downloading.  As noted elsewhere, the Lackey patch has been updated, and <surprise!> I've already loaded the Superstar Guides, so let me know if I missed anything.  (Flickr will get updated soon, probably in the next 24 hours, for anyone who still cares about it, haha)

And here we are.  Enjoy, have fun with the new cards, and revel in the fact that Eric and his team are already cooking up new Superstars for Virtual 10.  :)

No particular date was promised. Those cards will, indeed, show up down the road; we just haven’t gotten to their stop yet.


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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual 10: Breaking Ground
« on: September 28, 2019, 03:05:12 PM »
Just because a card has a high cost doesn't mean it needs to have an amazing effect. Some finishers are terrible and are 20+F. Additionally, reversing any card is good enough in my books for 20F.

As to building him fully anything, that would be stupid, he is clearly far more effective with a full blown mix.

I dont mean to be negative. I just fear that all future sets of raw deal are stupidly powerful.

Not to call you out specifically, here, but this post reminds me of similar ones made after just about every set was spoiled. Invariably, there's a superstar whose ability lends itself to a "master of none" strategy (as opposed to open-ended superstars like KO, where you can choose any strategy, but you do tend to fully commit once you do), and invariably, people envision a scenario where you get all the benefits from each of the individual components of the strategy, with none of the drawbacks, such as "I'm more likely to have the wrong mix of cards in my hand at any given time, compared to a better focused deck" or "I'm now susceptible, at least in part, to decks that counter any one of the things I do." Every time, people assume the master of none deck is going to be amazing, busted, the dev team doesn't know what they're doing... and every time, the dev team says "Look, we've tested this, and it's really not as over the top as you think it is." And just about every time, the dev team's been right.

If it turns out that we've all missed a trick here, and Gargano's busted beyond belief, we'll fix it... but we've looked for all the busted tricks we could think of, and we've already fixed them. We've done that with all the decks so far (frex, that's why Elias can't pack Divine Intervention.) We're not looking to make every set more powerful than the last; we're trying to contribute to a well-rounded metagame. If we miss the mark, hell, we're human. Humans do that. We'll identify the problem, we'll fix it, and we'll move on from there. That's why we have revisions and errata. We'd appreciate some patience, and some faith in our willingness to make it work.

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Rules Forum / Re: Prematch Order
« on: September 26, 2019, 05:59:01 PM »
Allegiance plays first, then Venue, Feud, Stipulation, Manager, and then everything else gets played in the Event phase.

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Rules Forum / Re: Beware the COBRA!
« on: September 19, 2019, 11:50:08 AM »
To follow up Creed's post, here's how it looks in the (relevant portion of the) Timing Breakdown:

6 The card is now 'Successfully Played' and enters the Ring Area.  If this card is reversing the card in question (it is not the first reversal to a Multi, it is not Over Sell Maneuver), the affected maneuver is now considered reversed. (Any text on the card and any Traits on the card are considered to be in your Ring Area after this step is complete. This excludes text that would modify or trigger in any of the first six steps.)
6a Some cards are put into the Ringside Pile or other area instead of going to the Ring Area (Iron Will etc.) The Timing Breakdown still continues as normal, these cards never enter the Ring Area.  They will resolve during the text resolution (Step 8 ) at that time, and will still resolve to its destination even if blanked.

7a Effects you control (other than this card's text taking place when played or when successful played) that trigger on a Successfully Played card take place. In the event of more than one effect, you choose which order they occur.
7b Effects your opponent controls that trigger on a Successfully Played card take place. Opponent chooses the order. (This is where cards such as Over Sell Maneuver and Sustained Damage are played.)

8 Apply effects listed on the card, unless these effects take place ‘when played’ or ‘when this card is in’ a specified area.

COBRA is successful at step 6/6a, but the effect of Beware triggers at step 7a, and the text of COBRA (including the instruction to shuffle COBRA back into the Arsenal) occurs at step 8, after the search.

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: kung fu naki
« on: August 19, 2019, 12:36:21 PM »
When the he'll did PRINTED get on there??
That's kinda dumb :p

(Also kills Heindereich's kidney punch too, which was the whole point of making the damned thing specific wasn't it?)

I take it you don't remember the revision to the revision to the revision of Heidenreich's card, as Daeva had to jump through hoops on hoops to try and figure out a wording that allowed him to ignore the unignorable bazooka. The end result of that was:

Backed by Road Warrior Animal     (Heidenreich logo)
Pre-match Event
Your Heidenreich-specific Pre-match cards do not take up a Pre-match slot in your Ring.
Your Heidenreich-specific maneuvers are Trademark Finishers instead.  Your cards with 'punch' in the title are +2D.  Your Kidney Punch cards are considered Superstar-specific, replace 'is in your Ringside' with 'is in your cards removed from the game or Ringside' in the text, you may remove 2 less cards from the game when moving Kidney Punch from your Ringside, and your opponent cannot prevent you from moving the card to your hand.
F: 0     D: 0     Unique     Permanent     RMS logo

With the ruling that "your opponent cannot prevent you from moving the card to your hand" overruled the limitations caused by OSCMTB.

All of that aside, in this case, OSCMTB would kill the Funaki ACE.

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: kung fu naki
« on: August 19, 2019, 09:53:46 AM »
OS cage will NOT kill Funaki for Funaki, they're superstart-specific which trumps the cage :)

Old School Cage Match
Pre-match Stipulation
When a card that is not printed: Chain, Heat, Stipulation, Superstar-specific, or Unique moves cards from any Ringside, the number of cards moved is reduced by 1.
When Back to Basics is in your Ring, your Pre-match Capacity is +3, and your opponent cannot play I'm Gonna Break You.
F: 0     D: 0     Unique     Permanent     RMS logo

They'll trump what, now?

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Pure & Wholesome
« on: August 14, 2019, 11:17:20 AM »
I can't answer for Mind Games or Throw Down, but I can help you with Interest.

Look at != Reveal. Pure and Wholesome specifically requires the text "Look at," which does not appear in Interest. Both players reveal their hands, your opponent shuffles 2 reversals (he chooses here, not you, so the last sentence of Pure and Wholesome doesn't trigger either), you bottom a card, and play continues.

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