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Virtual Deck Reviews / Re: my first draft on Lacey Evans
« on: March 24, 2020, 06:26:51 PM »
Apply Illegal Leverage works great after Girly Grab in Lacey Evans case too, the damage can be really decent after charging it up with Act Like a Lady and it might just escape the Elbow to the Face range (even though some players don't even bother to pack Elbow at all). All these reversal restrictions maneuvers piled together actually made her Trademark Finisher the easiest maneuver to reverse in the entire deck.

Something to note: try not to over focus on using the winning condition for her Trademark Finisher, 19 cards isn't a practical number to achieve (especially when majority of the games don't usually last for 37 turns or more)

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Virtual Deck Reviews / Re: Razor Ramon - BASH
« on: March 10, 2020, 06:45:53 PM »
all he needs add is making your escape and he's fine for no escape :)

I find classic knee to the groin is a nice transition move, but tb German is better

BASH you till five and calvary might be better recovery options (though Candice give you more....but Hell Cell..... again....make your escape!)

Backlash over turning things upside down is an interesting choice.....

The problem with No Escape against his reversals isn't its reversal restriction, but the fact that most of his reversals hit non-uniques and there usually are minimal non-uniques in a No Escape deck.

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Virtual Deck Reviews / Re: Razor Ramon - BASH
« on: March 09, 2020, 08:28:32 PM »
Why Candice over Here Comes the Calvary? You're generally running multis and Calvary fits in well. Classic Knee to the Groin sticks out like a sore thumb with its fort/damage curve that doesn't contribute much to the multi/protected maneuver built in the set up. And surely with the amount of heel cards, running No Show is more justifiable over Don't Bash the Stars? I mean you can even swap it in as an exchange for No Show!

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Rules Forum / Re: Critical Injury
« on: March 08, 2020, 06:35:53 PM »
Nope, you would be playing it after an unsuccessful 5D move ....no dice

Technically, Critical Injury only states "played after a 5D or greater maneuver" without mentioning if successful or not.

One might argue that it is an old wording but there is another more recent example that comes from Finlay card:

Finlay's Diving Dropkick
Mid-match Strike + Strike
Can only be played after a played card.
Cannot be reversed from Backlash or by The Coach Says, "Today’s the Day".
F: 0     D: 6     Unique     Multi
V1

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Rules Forum / Re: Scorpion Deathlock
« on: January 15, 2020, 06:19:02 PM »
To be fair, basing solely on grammar/punctuation, your brother’s interpretation is correct but the intent of the card wasn’t meant to be that way.

To fix the Scorpion Death Lock text, it should be written as ‘reverse any Submission, or Trademark Finisher with “maintain” in the text’

A similar case I can think of is that people use to misinterpret Facebuster TB to be able to reverse any Set-up cards as well (there’s even a post on omnifaq to explain its intent), but the lack of a comma makes it worded as intended.

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual Holiday: Then, Now, Forever
« on: January 13, 2020, 08:50:38 PM »
By the way is louiseville lip permanent? Card print permanent but tco strategy guide is not permanent. Please advice which is correct.

Would like to get an official confirmation on this too.

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: 2020 Bottom of the Barrel Thread
« on: December 30, 2019, 07:43:57 PM »
I have the most problems with Vickie Guerrero being that she has such a passive ability that you're not even sure if you want to build around it. We can definitely argue that she could pick an enforcer and build around it instead, but there doesn't seem to be much point as compared to building the enforced superstars themselves.

So far, her default game plan revolves around enforcing Freaking Hero and playing a straight up chain deck while drawing off reversals made chain by Excuse Me. And although it isn't bad, it's just meh

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual Holiday: Then, Now, Forever
« on: December 26, 2019, 07:15:47 AM »
Yes. Any deck whose ability is a ____ Superstar Ability is a Superstar. All the ones you mentioned, as well as Diva Superstars, Cruiserweight Superstars, Rookie Superstars, Legend Superstars, Throwback Superstars, and Stable Superstars, would be impacted by this card. Extremists are the primary exception, as their cards are printed with an Extremist Ability instead. The other exceptions I can identify at the moment are Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, who has a Movie Star Ability, and The Sexy Beast, who has a Huge Rock Star Ability. Note that these cards similarly cannot be affected by things like White Wedding, as they do not have a Superstar Ability to switch.

For the same reason, are these extremist, movie star, huge rock star considered superstar of their respective gender for the "watch" cards played by other non-lacey decks (e.g. trish, torrie etc)?

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual Holiday: Then, Now, Forever
« on: December 25, 2019, 03:05:51 AM »
Since intent is declared, does it wipe out potentiality rule from the other unintended effects?

E.g. choosing first effect of Everyone Wants to Watch Women Wrestle, will it be able to be reversed by cards that cause opponent to discard (don't hate the player)

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual Holiday: Then, Now, Forever
« on: December 19, 2019, 09:58:08 PM »

This will act similar to how Little She Devil resolves. When it's successful you choose which effect you're using and it will resolve to the appropriate area.

Everyone Wants to Watch Women Wrestle
Action
Can only be packed by a Female Superstar.
When your opponent is a Male Superstar, search his Arsenal for 3 non-unique Maneuver cards, remove them from the game, and he shuffles his Arsenal.
When your opponent is a Female Superstar, this card is -1F, discard this card and your opponent discards 1 card.
Raw logo
F: 1 D: 0

My concern is that, since intent doesn't have to be declared until it is successfully played, can you play it at 0F but use the first effect instead?

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual Holiday: Then, Now, Forever
« on: December 19, 2019, 05:48:14 PM »
How will Act like a Lady interact with cards like, Everybody Wants to Watch Women Wrestle? You are able to do both effects at 0F eh?

I don't think that is affected because her ability only affects 'Woman' and not 'Women'


Packed by a female superstar...

@Hogtrail, so little she devil mentioned an either/or, but those either/or alternatives are not presented in the male/female specific condition cards (e.g. everybody wants to watch women wrestle), so is this a new ruling passed down or something?

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual Holiday: Then, Now, Forever
« on: December 19, 2019, 06:59:27 AM »
How will Act like a Lady interact with cards like, Everybody Wants to Watch Women Wrestle? You are able to do both effects  at 0F eh?

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Virtual Holiday: Then, Now, Forever
« on: December 17, 2019, 05:54:50 AM »
Then = Jim Cornette
Now = Lacey Evans
Forever = ?

😏😏😏

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Classic Raw Deal / Re: Looking for advice with enforcers
« on: November 25, 2019, 10:01:48 AM »
If strictly speaking for GMs, I like Paul Heyman best with his thick pile of backstage stipulations which I try to make use of each and single one (including falls count anywhere).

On another note I like Mystery Wrestler with the hidden ECW and nWo enforcers that jumps out when you drop your T-shirt.

Lastly for cheap thrills, Sheriff Austin playing an abundance of pre match with "draw seGMent" in the text to open as many enforcers as possible to build up for his Mid match winning card is fun too. p.s. his ability work so well with No Way Out TB to avoid opponent from spinning a reversal for its effect

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Rules Forum / Re: Question about Allegiances
« on: November 23, 2019, 02:56:25 AM »
So.  if i play
Where the Big boys Play can I also run We Burn it to the ground tonight?

You can pack both of them but you only have the opportunity to play 1 of it.
Eric mistook Where the Big Boys Play with One of the Big Boys.

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Rules Forum / Re: The extent of Elias ability Qns
« on: November 02, 2019, 09:48:07 AM »
Thanks Eric! No worries on the delay as long as it isn't overlooked.  :)

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Rules Forum / Re: The extent of Elias ability Qns
« on: November 02, 2019, 07:46:53 AM »
Been about 2 weeks, not sure if anyone knows the correct answers...

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Rules Forum / Re: The extent of Elias ability Qns
« on: October 21, 2019, 07:25:23 PM »
Your answers differ a little from the group in Discord and no one can come to a conclusion...  :-[

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Rules Forum / The extent of Elias ability Qns
« on: October 20, 2019, 09:09:03 AM »
So since Elias is one of the newer superstar in V10, I have came across a couple of uncertainties regarding the extend of his ability, would appreciate if any Rules Guru can help me with it.

Scenario 1: Elias in Cage Match

If Elias played Puppies TB in a cage match and try to convert it into shuffling RFG (which is half, rounded up by default), will the cards shuffle from RFG be 7 divided by 2 equal to 3.5 round up to 4? Or would it be 7 minus 1 from cage match equal 6, divide by 2 equal 3?

Scenario 2: Elias in HiaC

If Elias is trapped in HiaC, would Elias playing Puppies TB allowing him to convert the shuffling from Ringside to RFG and therefore bypassing the entire Ringside lockdown from HiaC?

Scenario 3: When Elias has no Ringside

Will Elias playing Puppies TB be able to convert the shuffling from Ringside to RFG when he has no cards in Ringside in the first place?

Scenario 4: Specific Shuffling

For this Scenario, I will use the card Chained Heat, which when played as an Action, will allow the shuffling of 2 chain cards from Ringside. Will Elias be able to convert the shuffle from Ringside to RFG when he has neither Chain cards in his Ringside nor RFG? Does the replacement effect from his ability negate the specific cards required to shuffle?

Referenced Cards in the Qns:

ELIAS
Starting Hand Size: 6     Superstar Value: 1
Superstar Ability: When you would shuffle cards from your Ringside into your Arsenal, you may instead shuffle half that many cards removed from the game, rounded up, into your Arsenal.
You can pack Playin' a Mean Tune. You cannot pack Divine Intervention.

Old School Cage Match
Pre-match Stipulation
When a card that is not printed: Chain, Heat, Stipulation, Superstar-specific, or Unique moves cards from any Ringside, the number of cards moved is reduced by 1.
When Back to Basics is in your Ring, your Pre-match Capacity is +3, and your opponent cannot play I'm Gonna Break You.
F: 0     D: 0     Unique     Permanent     RMS logo

Puppies! Puppies!
Action
Cannot be played when your opponent is a Female Superstar.
Shuffle up to 7 cards from your Ringside pile into your Arsenal and draw 2 cards.
Throwback
F: 14 D: 0

Hell in a Cell Match
Pre-match Stipulation
Run-in cards cannot be played and no card or card effect can move any number of cards from any Ringside pile.
Cards with the Chris Jericho, Kane, Mankind, Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Triple H, Undertaker, Kurt Angle, Cactus Jack, Deadman Inc, or Shawn Michaels logos are not affected by this card.
Active
Permanent
F: 0 D: 0

Chained Heat
Action: Chain / Reversal: Special
As an action, discard this card and then shuffle up to 2 other Chain cards from your Ringside pile into your Arsenal.
As a reversal, you may play this card without discarding any cards, reverse any Chain card and end your opponent's turn.
As a reversal, reverse any Heat card and end your opponent's turn. The reversed card is removed from the game.
F: 0 D: 0

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If by that reasoning, even Titus Whistle can blank a Mean Gene Turn the Tide?

Titus's Whistle
Backstage Card
When your opponent plays an antic or action, you may put this card into your Ring, and his card is blank until the end of the turn.
When you are Titus O'Neil, this card is your Backstage Area or Ring, and you reverse a card, you may then remove this card from the game, and search your Arsenal for up to 2 non-Unique maneuvers, reveal them, put them in your hand and shuffle.
Unique     RMS logo

To be frank, I don't even know what's the point in the bolded text is referring to anymore...

Quote from RD Virtual FAQ:

"Response, Respond
-A player responds to a card by playing a Reversal card, activating a card effect, even if the card is not in their Ring, or activating their Ability.
-Cards that a player may not respond to will still trigger effects from cards in the Ring or Abilities. EXAMPLE: Diamond Dallas Page will still discard for his opponent's copies of Old School Psychology when he plays It's Me...It's Me...It's D-D-P. EXAMPLE 2: Leader of the Edge Army will still draw and cause Raw Guest Host to discard when Raw Guest Host successfully plays The Price is Raw. EXAMPLE 3: Raven will still draw when Festus hits him with a maneuver protected by ...."

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Introducing Virtual 10: Breaking Ground
« on: September 23, 2019, 03:02:22 AM »
Other than some weird wording and grammar, seems like a decent superstar.
On another note, it’s surprisingly refreshing not to see “cannot be blanked” and permanent on every superstar specific pre match card.

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: kung fu naki
« on: August 19, 2019, 09:05:08 AM »
You would still be able to pick up a unique card and a card removed from the game. Having a Face card in your ringside isnt a requirement

Having a Face card IS a requirement. For an ace to go through, one must be able to do BOTH X & Y of an ace. And since it doesn’t says “up to” you would be unable to perform the ACE if all 3 requirements aren’t fulfilled.

Likewise, old school cage match will kill the card dead as well.

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Introducing Virtual 10: Breaking Ground
« on: August 10, 2019, 11:59:56 AM »
Moving forward, are the design team going with the new network logo instead of the scratched one?

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Introducing Virtual 10: Breaking Ground
« on: August 02, 2019, 11:33:37 PM »
With V9b just released, V10 seemed to follow up really close! No Complaints!  ;D

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Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Time for a Change
« on: August 01, 2019, 08:33:58 AM »
Just want to check if Burn It Down is permanent? It appears not in the set list but it’s printef permanent on the images.

By the way, This Club is Too Sweet didn’t have the “action + action” when it’s a multi card.

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