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Rules Forum / Re: You Think I'm a Psycho Qns
« on: Today at 10:33:55 AM »
Sure does. There's no limit to the number of times during a turn that you can stash a card under Psycho.

Rules Forum / Re: Visible cards
« on: Today at 10:30:37 AM »
No, cards underneath under cards are hidden by default. (You can always look at the cards under your cards, unless that card says otherwise.)

If a card specifies that you put things under it face-up, then those cards are visible, but that's the specific text-driven exception to the general rule.

Rules Forum / Re: A really stupid Sandman question
« on: June 11, 2019, 12:07:59 PM »
You really shouldn't be, because Stash doesn't say that it copies Stun or traits. It copies what it says it copies, and Stun is none of those things.

Rules Forum / Re: Old School Brawl vs. Carlito vs. Douchebag
« on: June 10, 2019, 09:28:01 AM »
1) Incorrect. Douchebag ignores restrictions from cards, but it reverses cards with restrictions from the opponent. Your effect made the card Chain, it's coming from you, so Douchebag can tag your Samoan Drop. Douchebag can't ignore the Chain trait, so the Douchebag player still has to discard, but Douchebag is a legal reversal in this case.

2) Correct, Samoan Drop has no printed reversal restrictions, so Carlito can't touch it.

3) Old School Brawl doesn't ever reverse anything.  :P You are correct that it's not a legal play after your Samoan Drop, because the reversal restriction is from the Chain trait, not a card.

4) Correct, Chain is a reversal restriction and it's printed on your Ankle Lock TB, but Carlito can't ignore it because it's a trait effect, not a card effect, so the Carlito player has to discard 2 cards to play Carlito.

5) Correct, all three of those cards can be played.

6) Correct, a reversal restriction has to be actively affecting your opponent's reversal capability to be a reversal restriction. If that text is inactive because you don't meet a requirement on it, then it's not a reversal restriction.

Rules Forum / Re: WWE World Heavyweight Title Belts
« on: June 07, 2019, 09:48:29 PM »
The modifications that an Enforcer makes to your Starting Hand Size, Superstar Value, and Superstar Ability aren't card effects, they're just part of your Enforcer Superstar's statistics. Things that block increases to Starting Hand Size or Superstar Value don't block the Enforcer increases.

Rules Forum / Re: Question about I Know Who Pays My Salary
« on: June 04, 2019, 04:42:10 PM »
Superstar-specific cards are not excluded by the restriction. No WCW Superstar-specifics with Salary.

(It's also not a restriction in the Ability, which a Superstar-specific would bypass naturally, so SS-specifics don't get a pass on that front either.)

Rules Forum / Re: Legacy
« on: June 02, 2019, 09:54:06 PM »
Yes, the turn would still end if Legacy removed an applicable reversal to an RMS maneuver from the game for their Ability.

Kofi's Double Chop can't grab itself off of Kofi using his Ability when Kofi's Double Chop is reversed. The timing isn't right; the Double Chop isn't in the Ringside yet when the text triggers. It's just like Cold-Cocked.

Therefore, throwing the Double Chop twice in the same turn via Kofi's Ability isn't going to happen.

Rules Forum / Re: Stardust and Cartwheel
« on: May 31, 2019, 09:46:42 PM »
Stardust's Ability modifies Cartwheel everywhere, including during deck construction. You get 1 Cartwheel.

Rules Forum / Re: Kofi question
« on: May 31, 2019, 09:46:05 PM »
Yes. Unorthodox Style of Wrestling doesn't specify that the Submission must be successful. If you find a way to play a High Risk after an unsuccessful Submission (like Kofi's Ability), it totally works.

Rules Forum / Re: Heenan Family + Sustain vs. DTTAH
« on: May 31, 2019, 09:45:08 PM »
Mitch is correct. The ACE is reversed, but Don't Try This at Home can't move Sustained Damage. Kicking a card out of the Ring is definitely affecting it.

You will not get another chance to activate Sustained Damage on the same source of damage, as the trigger already passed, so you'll discard everything that you dropped for Sustained Damage, plus two for Don't Try This at Home, and then take the damage that you tried to Sustain.

Rules Forum / Re: The Paul Heyman Guys
« on: May 21, 2019, 07:29:51 PM »
No, the Bookkeeping Rule says that it can't affect the game anymore, since it left the Ring. It's not there to see its own Activation because leaving the Ring is the cost.

Rules Forum / Re: The Paul Heyman Guys
« on: May 21, 2019, 05:27:51 PM »
Yup, it's in your Ring when you Promo, so you can Activate it during its own trigger.

Rules Forum / Re: Evening gown match and maintain hold
« on: May 18, 2019, 11:59:08 PM »
No. Maintain Hold doesn't trigger outside effects when it calls for the maneuver's effects and Damage. You're not successfully playing a card, just repeating the effects of a card in play.

Then I'll cross-post there and here: SRH was mistaken. Maintain's entry in the OmniFAQ makes it clear that the maneuver isn't considered "successfully played" over and over, you just apply the effects and damage from the maneuver itself. Maintain won't trigger Evening Gown Match over and over or allow Goldust to obliterate his opponent's hand.

The OmniFAQ shoots some holes in that theory:

Maintain Hold (both versions)
-If played after a maneuver affected by Brahma Bull or other similar ‘blanking’ effect, the blanking effect will not take place when the damage is reapplied.  This is because the maneuver is not being played, it is already in play.
-If played after a maneuver that was made irreversible by another card effect such as Turn the Tide or Diversion, the maneuver loses this irreversability bonus when the damage is applied again.

The Brahma Bull entry makes clear that the card isn't considered being played when you apply it again. I'd also like to see some verification on your claim that Maintaining a maneuver triggers Goldust's Ability and Evening Gown Match over and over.

Rules Forum / Re: Dancing Finale
« on: May 14, 2019, 07:50:24 PM »
As worded now?  Yes.

Once the 2019 Revisions are done, though, that'll be a 'no'.  ;)

Creed continues to be correct, even to a question that he wasn't asked.

Nothing's for Sure also works very well with this card:

Halloween Havoc
Pre-match Pay-Per-View Event
Can only be played by a WCW Superstar.
This card does not take up a Pre-match slot in your Ring.
Your opponent draws 3 cards, and then you put the top card of your Arsenal face-down as a non-Unique D: 3 Strike played from hand, and he may attempt to reverse it as if it was your turn; if he does not, put the card under this card.  He discards 2 cards.
When there is a card under this card and you have no Pre-match cards of D:1+ in your Ring, your Fortitude Rating is +3F.
F: 0     D: 0     Unique     Permanent     RMS logo     WCW logo

Fantasy Cards / Re: The Lord of Darkness
« on: May 01, 2019, 10:53:17 AM »
One problem... if you picked Phenom in that scenario, you'd have about a third of the specifics that you would if you picked Undertaker / Deadman. I feel like Shelan's intent was to make you pick between Undertaker or Deadman (because the specifics that only have one logo are the same things with new names) and always get Phenom. The solution there would be to parcel out UT/DMI into their own clause and tack on Phenom after that.

"You may pack any cards with the Undertaker or Deadman Inc logos (except the card titled I'm the Biggest Dog on this Block!). When you are packing cards that just have one of those logos, you cannot pack cards that just have the other logo. You may also pack cards with the Phenom logo."

Rules Forum / Re: Several Funkin' Questions
« on: April 28, 2019, 06:29:33 PM »
Yes, you can pop Hardcore Timekeeper's Bell on the maneuver that it's played with. Both cards go into the Ring in step 6, and you get the chance to use the Bell during step 7a.

Double Cross Ranch makes your 0F Classics Foreign Objects wherever they are, forever. They count toward First Blood Match.

Rules Forum / Re: A Method to the Madness discard protection
« on: April 25, 2019, 10:15:19 AM »
Can confirm that A Method to the Madness affects any play effect from a card with "blindside" in the title that uses the word "discard." Blindside Beal Toss will still let the opponent look at your Backlash, but that's all.

Rules Forum / Re: The Paul Heyman Guys
« on: April 20, 2019, 10:25:09 AM »
Yup! Same reason why you can draw off of playing Premiere Smackdown Superstar. The card enters the Ring in step 6 and triggers itself in step 7a.

Raw Deal Online / Re: Some Fantasy Stuff
« on: April 14, 2019, 10:26:03 AM »
Test TB is a little baffling to me. How am I putting 2 copies of Managed by Stacy Keibler into my Ring if I am specifically blocked from packing 2 copies of it by the parenthetical exception? I'm also not sure that the ability to have a Pre-match is better than losing my second copies of Unique Mids, my expanded Mid room, and the ability to crater my opponent's hand.

Rules Forum / Re: Paul Heyman's Shoot Promo
« on: April 14, 2019, 10:18:05 AM »
We ruled that otherwise when we played because the language was all singular. But what was ruled seems like a more logical way and gives the card much more purpose. Is there any way to rephrase the wordings? I believe phrases like 'move any number of cards' was used in the later expansions which were very clear.

I'll make a note to have it looked at for this year's Revisions.

Rules Forum / Re: Paul Heyman's Shoot Promo
« on: April 13, 2019, 10:20:37 PM »
Yes. You'll get to pick which one of the three cards that he's trying to move gets removed from the game with the Shoot Promo.

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