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It was a fun show.

The other thing that happened was I took my Tom Lawlor t-shirt and used masking tape to spell out "SUCKS" underneath his logo. Since he turned heel (and is very effective at it), and because of the way these shows are, I held it up at various points when he was out to try and get a reaction. I got three. Lawlor saw it and looked at me with utter contempt. Team Filthy member Dominic Garrini called me an a**hole. Best compliment I received that night! And Marshall Von Erich, who's currently feuding with Lawlor, appreciated my shoddy handiwork and said it looked awesome.

Professional Wrestling Discussion / I triggered Erick Stevens last night
« on: February 02, 2020, 09:09:29 AM »
Last night I was at MLW Fightland in Philadelphia. Dilbert went with me to the show, and I brought streamers to throw into the ring for certain matches. Well, I wish I could have my first toss back.

The first match the streamers would come into play was for Davey Boy Smith Jr vs Erick Stevens. I had never thrown streamers before, so I did not know the proper form. But I thought I had a good idea. So DBS Jr comes to the ring, others throw their streamers. I toss mine, and immediately I know I screwed up because it's headed right for the back of Erick Stevens's head. Sure enough, it's a direct hit. Oops.

I don't know if Stevens knows it was me, but he then proceeded to pick up the spool Dilbert threw and wing it into the crowd near where we were sitting. That got a laugh from several people sitting nearby, and Dilbert said it would make good TV.

The rest of the night, Stevens would act triggered by streamers. He'd tear them up, toss them away in disgust, and even threaten people he saw had streamers. Including me. The folks in our section had fun taunting him by yelling out "STREAMERS!" and throwing bits of them in his direction.

I was rather embarrassed by my bad aim, and worried because I thought I might get tossed from the building. But I guess security saw there was no malicious intent because nothing came of it. Nobody came by or anything. Dilbert afterwards suggested I throw with a higher arc, and the next time, for Brian Pillman Jr's match against Jimmy Havoc, my toss was much better.

So yeah. Erick, my bad.

I’ll take the AOP/Rollins package (9 pts), 1 DAMN! (2 pts), and four reroll counters (4 pts).

Professional Wrestling Discussion / MLW Saturday Night SuperFight
« on: November 03, 2019, 08:17:29 AM »
Last night MLW held their first ever PPV, Saturday Night SuperFight. And WHAT a PPV it was!

If you can get a replay of this show, which can be found either on traditional PPV or Fite.TV, GET IT. The show is $20, and $20 is an absolute STEAL. This show was so good I wanted to send more money to MLW because I think they undercharged. MLW showed exactly what they are with this show, with a wide variety of matches and great action. This show is "PPV Booking 101". They even showed how to make overbooked portions enjoyable. My thoughts on this show:

-AEW and WWE should be banging down Jacob Fatu's door and trying to sign him when he becomes available. That dude is insanely talented. Jacob Fatu is what would happen if Umaga (Jacob's late uncle) and Jeff Hardy did the Fusion Dance. This is a guy that can carry a promotion's top belt as a lightning-quick, hard hitting monster heel. That and he's actually pretty good talking as well.

-Jordan Oliver and Brian Pillman Jr are both young and still growing, but their potential is limitless. Jordan Oliver could use some more meat on his bones, and Pillman needs to polish up his ring skills a bit more, but I think both could be highly sought after. Jordan Oliver has the potential to draw MJF levels of heel heat. It's so easy to hate the guy and want to punch him in the face. As for Pillman, he manages to both call back to his late father while standing out on his own.

-The Von Erich family has, against all odds, managed to continue their legacy in this generation. Marshall and Ross Von Erich, the sons of Kevin, have taken the Von Erich style and brought it into the 21st century. They have echoes of their dad and late uncles, but they stand out on their own, mixing in high-flying and Stone Cold Steve Austin brawling into the signature Von Erich style.

-Mance Warner is one crazy motherf***er. The things that guy is willing to do to his body makes his nickname "The Southern Psycho" fitting. He's the blue-collaredness of Stone Cold Steve Austin, the psychosis of Jon Moxley, and the charisma of Dusty Rhodes all wrapped into one.

-Timothy Thatcher is WALTER, only American. His grappling and mat wrestling are superb and keep you engaged throughout the bout. The dude wouldn't look out of place wrestling in the NWA in the 50s. Mat-based technical wrestling can work in engaging a modern crowd, and he shows you how it's done.

-Finally, Alex Hammerstone is a power wrestler that other feds should also be keeping an eye on. He's solid in the ring, and he's equal parts Triple H and Chris Jericho, in that he's egotistical beyond all belief while at the same time entertaining and hilarious as a comically serious meathead. He causes you to shift between moods but not feel awkward when it happens.

Professional Wrestling Discussion / What a time to be a wrestling fan
« on: October 16, 2019, 04:01:42 AM »
The Billy Corgan-led NWA now has a weekly YouTube show called NWA Powerrr. That show is a trip: it's old school done by the new school. It's done in a retraux style, with the studio looking like it did in 1984, a live studio audience, and just a general throwback vibe.

Last night's episode featured some debuts. Among them:

-Trevor Murdoch (!)
-Ken Anderson (!!)
-Aron Stevens (!!!)

The thing that sticks out about this show: the promos. Everyone's buzzing about Chris Jericho's masterclass promo last week on AEW Dynamite. I'd argue that NWA Powerrr is a show that demonstrates EXACTLY how to do a promo. Every promo that's given draws me in and keeps me hooked.

You can check out NWA Powerrr on the NWA YouTube channel. Tune in and I guarantee you'll be................. ...........FALLIN' INTO THE FIRE.

DISCLAIMER: Tony Falk's House of Waffles and Tire Irons is not real. Austin Idol's Universal Wrestling College however ABSOLUTELY is real.

MLW on Mondays, NWA on Tuesdays, AEW on Wednesdays......... ....what's a WWE?

Rules Forum / Re: Intensity of ten cities and no more shenanigans
« on: September 01, 2019, 02:10:12 PM »
The answer to the original question is - maybe.

Assuming the opponent is willing to overturn the 1 card, what NMS does is prevent I10C from going to the bottom of the Arsenal as the activation cost and instead removes it from the game.  But the activation is still pending, so whether or not The Home Team gets to shuffle 10 in that situation depends on whether the opponent reverses the Activated Card Effect.  If they do not, then you shuffle 10, but if they do, then you don't.

I figured I was missing something. It’s been too long since I last played Raw Deal and I was using FFTCG logic, which is not quite Raw Deal logic.

Rules Forum / Re: Intensity of ten cities and no more shenanigans
« on: August 31, 2019, 06:40:14 PM »
Based on what No More Shenanigans says, I would assume that using it to remove The Intensity of Ten Cities cancels the effect since No More Shenanigans removes it from the game “instead”. Maybe I’m wrong, but that sounds like No More Shenanigans’ interaction with The Intensity of Ten Cities replaces the effect.

Virtual Raw Deal / Re: Introducing Virtual 10: Breaking Ground
« on: August 03, 2019, 06:41:00 PM »
I can give an update of sorts:

Scott Mackie (CRASHER) is your 2019 Raw Deal World Champion! He beat Brian Paolercio (BigPimpin) in the finals to claim the championship.

I think swapping cards out of your tournament deck to play side games is idiotic, just use proxies in side games!

That said, it was dumb but probably accidental, and it's very possible his deck was legal when he started.  A single loss seems the right call IMO.


There's a very weird taboo against proxies in FFTCG. Players like building multiple decks that share cards, and players will sleeve their cards with the exact same sleeves so that all you need to do is take the shared cards out of one deck and put them into another. Even though nobody says anything, there's a silent understanding that proxies are a no-go. One store I go to actually does proxy-legal tournaments just to help new players get into the game, but even there players don't use proxies.

I can't explain it, and it doesn't make sense, but that's the way it is.

Last week I was at the Lightning Crystal Cup in Midlothian, VA for the Final Fantasy TCG. The Crystal Cups are the game's major events: the winner qualifies for the World Championship, while 2nd through 4th qualify for the North American National Championship. During the event there was an incident which caused a lot of controversy and is still being talked about and causing a lot of controversy among the community.

The incident was as follows: in the sixth round of Swiss (out of seven rounds), a player called a judge to inform them that his deck was illegal. The deck had five copies of a particular card in it, and only three copies of any card are allowed. The player's decklist had listed a legal deck. After some discussion and consultation with Hobby Japan (the publishers of FFTCG and the ones responsible for events), the decision was made to give the player a game loss for an illegal deck and allow them to correct the deck so that it matched the deck list. Because Swiss is best-of-one, this was essentially a match loss. After the player corrected his deck, he was permitted to continue playing in the tournament.

This is causing controversy because many in the community thought that it should've been a tournament disqualification and also speculated that the player in question was actively cheating. It caused an uproar which is still continuing, and I felt like this would be a good place to ask you guys about it.

The arguments for ruling the player cheated and thus a DQ are as follows:

-The player was 5-0 when he reported his illegal deck, and thus guaranteed to make the Top 32 cut
-Having four of the same card in a deck is an easy mistake to make. Five of the same card, not so much
-It'd be hard to not notice you're running more than three copies of a card that late
-The card in question allows someone to search for a Scion of the Seventh Dawn Forward, which is very helpful for the deck he was playing
-The card in question is also a starter-exclusive card, and the majority of players who play the game don't own more than three of any starter-exclusive card

On the other side, the arguments that a game loss was appropriate and that there wasn't any cheating are as follows:

-The player called the judge on himself
-The player's reaction was of embarrassment. Witnesses say the guy was mortified when he discovered the error and on the verge of tears when he called the judge.
-Per several witnesses, prior to the tournament, the player had been playing some friendly games and had been swapping cards between two decks. One of the decks was his tournament deck.
-Given how the player's deck is built to win fast, it's entirely plausible that he could've gone that long without noticing the error
-On the flipside of the card he had being useful, the player had omitted two copies of a card which were also useful and thus unknowingly handicapped himself

I later learned from one of the judges that this was contentious even among the officials there. Richie Brady, the game's North American manager, wanted to immediately disqualify the player, but the judges argued that their investigation gave them no reason to believe that the error was intentional and that per tournament guidelines, a DQ is only to be handed out for cheating, which requires intent. This led to both parties agreeing to contact Hobby Japan, who made the ruling to give the player a game loss but allow him to correct his deck and continue. After the tournament, Hobby Japan and Kageyama-san (the game's creator) issued a statement, saying that they will be revising the tournament rules. They intend to come up with new guidelines and also rethink what penalties are issued, with the statement saying that new penalties may be formulated as well.

Me personally, I'm on the side of the argument that a game loss was the correct call. Based on what we know, there's no indication the player intentionally made that error. The player's reaction also tells me it was a mistake on his part and not an attempt to deceive. In my own personal experience, I've made a similar mistake. I once played a deck with four copies of a card and didn't realize it until near the end of the weekly tournament I was playing in, when I realized my error in the middle of a game. I reported that myself and conceded to my opponent. The arguments of the pro-DQ side are based on speculation and hearsay, and you can't base a DQ off of that. You don't need irrefutable proof to issue a DQ, but you do need reasonable suspicion that a player knowingly performed an illegal act. Since the investigation did not turn up anything which would lead to a reasonable suspicion, then you can't assume it was intentional and thus DQ them.

What are your guys' thoughts on this?

General Chat / Re: Level 37 Achieved!
« on: July 09, 2019, 06:00:45 PM »
Good job getting that next level. Figure out what stat increases you want before next game!  :laugh:

I'm 37 (I'm not old!). Gotta put it in Con at this point. I could use more bonuses to save against injury, since I herniated a disc in my back early this year while shoveling my parents' driveway.

General Chat / Level 37 Achieved!
« on: July 09, 2019, 12:34:58 PM »
Yep, it's happened again. 365 more EXP means another level of experience!

+1's are to be had!

Other Gaming Discussion / River City Ransom is getting a revival
« on: July 08, 2019, 10:49:29 AM »
Only this time you play as Misako and Kyoko, Kunio and Riki's girlfriends, as they set out to rescue their boyfriends.

All I can say to WayForward and Arc System Works is SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY.

Supershow / Re: SRG spotted at MLW Fury Road!
« on: June 08, 2019, 06:44:10 PM »
Watching MLW Fusion this week. Sami Callihan was on-camera wearing an SRG baseball cap!

You guys are getting your names out there!

Supershow / SRG spotted at MLW Fury Road!
« on: June 01, 2019, 06:50:37 PM »
I am watching MLW Fury Road live on beIN Sports right now, and I saw something that caught my eye: an attendee wearing an SRG hoodie! I wasn’t sure that was what the logo was, but a second look confirmed it.

SRG folks: do any of you know who that was, and are they on TCO? And most importantly: does this mean anything for Supershow?

Professional Wrestling Discussion / Re: Major League Wrestling (MLW)
« on: March 19, 2019, 04:59:42 AM »
I'm back here because last Saturday's show had a match which featured some real old-school heel work, along with a spot never seen before and said heel work almost causing a riot. Jim Cornette's commentary also sells what's happening perfectly.

Watch as order breaks down and Ciampa-level heat ensues.

Fantasy Cards / Re: MLW Fighters
« on: March 17, 2019, 04:01:33 AM »
Part of Ace’s gimmick revolves around being a gambler. Poker in particular but gambling in general as well. And as you know, Triple 7 is the slot reel combo famous for being the jackpot spin. Also 7 being a lucky number in general. Hence why if he plays something that’s F:7 or D:7, he gets cards.

If it were me, I'd move toward invoking the triple-7 and give him a card that lets him flip 3 7F/7D cards in his Ring face-down to draw 5. Drawing 3 off of 7F/7D cards makes me kinda leery, 'cause there are some DAMN good 7F actions and reversals out there. Drawing 3 for landing That's Balanced is pretty scary.

It was absolutely not my intent to include Reversals, so thank you for pointing it out. After your feedback, I decided to keep the draw three clause, but I've restricted it solely to F:7 or D:7 Maneuvers.

Fantasy Cards / Re: MLW Fighters
« on: March 16, 2019, 07:41:22 PM »
I have made some modifications to Ace Austin:

-Changed "Is This Your Card?" to be Mid-Match
-Per Creed's suggestion and with input from Dilbert, added the Arsenal limitation and additional ability.

General Chat / A simple request
« on: March 15, 2019, 10:42:12 AM »

Fantasy Cards / Re: MLW Fighters
« on: March 13, 2019, 03:23:47 AM »
Why does Ace Austin care about 7s? I'd expect him to like aces (1F/1D), not 7s. Is there a shoutout that I'm missing because I haven't watched a ton of MLW?

Part of Ace’s gimmick revolves around being a gambler. Poker in particular but gambling in general as well. And as you know, Triple 7 is the slot reel combo famous for being the jackpot spin. Also 7 being a lucky number in general. Hence why if he plays something that’s F:7 or D:7, he gets cards.

Fantasy Cards / Re: MLW Fighters
« on: March 12, 2019, 07:24:44 PM »
I haven't seen any of MLW, but I love the concept of the character and your execution here.  Maybe his Arsenal should only have 52 cards?  Hahaha


Thank you Creed!

I had figured out the first part of his Fighter Ability, and the second part just came to me out of the blue as "That'd be cool and it fits!" Everything else fell into place pretty quickly, like the card effects on his maneuvers, the Aces High reversal, and the like. "Is This Your Card?" got an assist from Dilbert when he suggested the card do that. It's based on one of his signature taunts when he's wrestling, when he flicks his hand, shows his opponent an Ace of Spades playing card, and then pummels them.

I was impressed by Austin's match against DJZ this past Saturday, and looked up some highlights, and not only was I impressed, but I began getting a bunch of ideas for a set for him.

Any further feedback from anyone else would be appreciated.

Fantasy Cards / Re: MLW Fighters
« on: March 12, 2019, 06:22:26 PM »
Ace Austin
HS: 7
SSV: 0
MLW Fighter Ability: Your Arsenal may contain only 52 cards. At the beginning of your turn, if you have 21 or less cards in your Arsenal, put one card from your Ringside on the bottom of your Arsenal.
Whenever you successfully play a Maneuver with the word "Kick" or "Enzugiri" in the title, if the next card you play is a non-Unique High Risk Maneuver, you may ignore the "Can only be played after" text.
Whenever you successfully play a non-Unique F:7 or D:7 Maneuver, draw three cards.

The Ace of Spades
Pre-Match Event
Cannot be blanked. This card does not take up a slot in your Pre-Match.
Your Starting Hand Size is +1
Each turn, you may skip your Draw Segment. If you do, you may search your Arsenal for one Maneuver with the word "Kick" or "Enzugiri" in the title, reveal it to your opponent, put it into your hand, and shuffle your Arsenal. If you have three or more Maneuvers in your Ring of either F:7 or D:7, you may search without skipping your Draw Segment.

Pro Wrestling's Prince of Parkour
Mid-Match Action/Reversal: Special
As an Action, search your Arsenal for one non-Unique High Risk Maneuver of 15D or less, reveal it to your opponent, put it into your hand, and shuffle your Arsenal. If it is the next card played this turn, you may ignore the "Can only be played after" text and it is to be considered F:7 for your Fighter Ability.
As a Reversal, reverse any Set-Up, any Maneuver played after a Set-Up or any Maneuver played as a Counter. If the first card played on your next turn is a High Risk Maneuver, you may ignore the "Can only be played after" text.

The Flop
High Risk
Can only be played after a successfully played Maneuver. Shuffle three cards from your Ringside into your Arsenal.

The Turn
Strike + High Risk/Reversal: Special
As a Maneuver, can only be played after a successfully played Maneuver or as a Counter. You may take up to four cards in your hand, put them on the bottom of your Arsenal, and draw that may cards.
As a Reversal, reverse any Strike or any High Risk of D:10 or less.

The River
Grapple + High Risk
As a Maneuver, can only be played after a successfully played 5D or greater Maneuver or any Action. -5F to the next Maneuver you play this turn.

Aces High
Reversal: Special
Reverse any Activated Card Effect. Draw one card, shuffle one card from your Ringside into your Arsenal, and your opponent discards one card and overturns one card.

Is This Your Card?
Mid-Match Action + Action
Choose one non-Backlash, non-Reversal card in your opponent's Ring. This card gains that card's text, traits, and Damage. If this card is successfully played, after it resolves, remove it and the card chosen from the game.

The Fold
Trademark Finisher + High Risk/Reversal: Special
As a Maneuver, can only be played after a successfully played 5D or greater Maneuver or as a Counter. Your opponent discards 5 cards.
As a Reversal, reverse any Strike or High Risk.

Coming soon: Mance Warner

Fantasy Cards / MLW Fighters
« on: March 11, 2019, 06:56:52 PM »
"Filthy" Tom Lawlor
HS: 7
SSV: 2
MLW Fighter Ability: Whenever you successfully play a Strike Maneuver, draw one card. Whenever you successfully play a Grapple Maneuver, you may search your Arsenal for one Submission Maneuver, reveal it to your opponent, add it to your hand, and shuffle your Arsenal. Whenever you successfully play a Submission Maneuver, you may shuffle one card in your Ringside into your Arsenal. When you have a Strike, Grapple, and Submission in your Ring, draw an additional card during your Draw Step.

Filthy Tom's Mouthguard
Backstage Area
Your opponent's Strike Maneuvers are -2D. If you play a Reversal to a Multi Strike, replace the word "Reverse" with the words "Completely reverse".
During your opponent's turn, after he successfully plays a Maneuver with the word "punch" in the title, you may hide this card. If it has the Restricted Modification Symbol, ignore it. Blank its text and Damage and end your opponent's turn.

The Ace of Major League Wrestling
Pre-Match Event
Cannot be blanked.
At the end of the Pre-Match Phase, you may reveal up to one non-Multi Strike Maneuver, one non-Multi Grapple Maneuver, and one non-Multi Submission Maneuver from your hand and place them on the bottom of your Arsenal. Search your Arsenal for one of each Maneuver type revealed, show them to your opponent, put them into your hand, and shuffle your Arsenal. If you revealed three cards with this card's effect, you may also search for one Reversal and one Action, reveal them, and put them into your hand.

No-Ropes No Holds Barred Match
Pre-Match Stipulation
Cannot be blanked and does not take up a Pre-Match Slot in your Ring
All players' Starting Hand Sizes are +1
All Submission Maneuvers are +1D, do not have the Heel trait, and cannot be reversed from Arsenal
No player may play the cards titled "Irish Whip" or "Throw Into The Corner Turnbuckle"
Replace the "Can only be played after" text on all non-Multi High Risk Maneuvers with "Can only be played after a successfully played Maneuver". Reduce the Damage of all non-Multi High Risk Maneuvers by #, where # is equal to half that Maneuver's Damage, rounded up.
Universally Unique

Filthy Ankle Lock
Submission/Reversal: Special
As a Maneuver, -6F, and when successfully played, your opponent discards two cards.
As a Reversal, reverse any Maneuver with the word "Kick" in the title.

Filthy Flurry
Strike + Strike
If this card is the first non-Pre-Match, non-reversal card of the game you play, can only be reversed from Arsenal.

Standing On The Shoulders of Giants
Mid-Match Action/Reversal: Special
As an Action, can only be played after a successfully played Maneuver. Shuffle # cards from your Ringside into your Ring, where # is equal to the number of Maneuvers in your Ring. If you have a Strike, Grapple, and Submission in your Ring, shuffle an additional 10 cards from your Ringside into your Ring.
As a Reversal, completely reverse any non-Superstar Specific Maneuver.

Filthy Counter
Reversal: Special
Reverse any non-Unique Maneuver of 10D or less. Overturn three cards.

Filthy Rear-Naked Choke
Trademark Finisher/Reversal: Special
As a Maneuver, -1F for each Maneuver in your Ring. If you have a Strike, Grapple, and Submission in your Ring, this card is an additional -5F. The card titled Maintain Hold may be played after this card as if it were a Submission Maneuver.
As a Reversal, reverse any Submission or any Maneuver with the words "Maintain Hold" in the text.

Coming soon: Ace Austin

Professional Wrestling Discussion / Re: Major League Wrestling (MLW)
« on: March 02, 2019, 10:18:59 AM »
Just wanted to update: Ol' Mancer made his MLW TV debut last week, and it ended up drawing a lot of attention and buzz. His pre-match promo and then his match against Jimmy Yuta got people talking about his massive potential.

Professional Wrestling Discussion / Re: Major League Wrestling (MLW)
« on: February 22, 2019, 02:41:32 PM »
Mancer is also damn good.

Fully agreed. What really strikes me about Ol’ Mancer is his promo ability. He’s only been wrestling for three years but cuts an awesome promo.

On another note, MLW now has a new timeslot. 9 PM Saturday on beIN, with it going up on YouTube at 12 PM Sunday. beIN wants to do more live shows, and Saturday is their typical show day. Plus, it’s been getting dynamite ratings for beIN, and giving them that timeslot will help.

Worth noting Mancer was trained by the same trainer as Ruby Riott. The legendary King of Indiana Billy Roc! Both of which were trained in my home town of Lafayette, Indiana. The school name is The School of Roc.

If only I could tell the stories of Mancer and Jock Samson (#DukeMoney) on here; but neither the police nor the moderators of this site would allow me to.
Let's just say if Mancer is in town and you want to have a good time, find him after the show (usually at the bar) and don't plan to sleep until after the sun rises.

He's good people.

Part of why I said Ol’ Mancer was a great promo was because of the fact that when he says something, you believe him. His promo after winning the CZW World Heavyweight Championship, he talked about “hittin’ the pay windah and drinkin’ beers in the parkin’ lot with these people.” It struck me immediately as “He probably actually does do that.” Based on what you just said, I now have confirmation he almost certainly does do that.

By the way, the next MLW show, Intimidation Games in Chicago on March 2nd has Ol’ Mancer going up against LA Park in a death match. I think that might just be one of the noght’s best matches.

Here’s the full card so far:
-“Filthy” Tom Lawlor (c) vs. Low Ki in a cage match for the MLW World Heavyweight Championship
-The Hart Foundation (Teddy Hart & Davey Boy Smith Jr) (c) vs. Maxwell J. Friedman & Richard Holliday for the MLW Tag Team Championship
-Mance Warner vs. LA Park
-Lucha Bros (Pentagon Jr & Ray Fenix) vs. Taurus & Laredo Kid
-Brian Pillman Jr vs. Alex Hammerstone
-DJZ vs. Ace Austin in a Battle Riot Qualifier
-Hijo de LA Park vs. Puma King
-Gringo Loco vs. Myron Reed

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