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Professional Wrestling Discussion / Re: Wrestling Controversies
« on: January 20, 2018, 10:36:27 AM »
I'd say the loony theory of WWE killing Owen Hart as "payback" for the Austin injury would be pretty damaging.

Outright murder's a bit too loony for me, but even without that motive, if Vince McMahon was made aware of the risks of using that harness before signing off on the stunt, and he signed off on it anyway due to callousness or negligence, that would probably have been incredibly damaging by itself.

Brock Lesnar (6)
Ring General (3)
Cardio King (1)
Cornerman (1)

Surprise Entrant (4)

== 15 pts.

General Discussion: Raw Deal / Re: Superstar Tiers
« on: January 16, 2018, 10:01:52 AM »
A few things of note: the RDPC tends not to leave superstars underpowered or overpowered for too long. If someone's bad, they'll get new cards or revisions so as to make them better. One great example is the Steiner Brothers. Their original ability allowed them to pack a very specific and limited set of maneuvers (all of which were listed on Back to Basics) in their Backstage Area, and gave them a 45 card Arsenal, but it didn't translate to an effective deck type. In the most recent revision, they were changed to an ability that makes their "suplex," "clothesline," and B2B maneuvers shoot and technical, which looks to be much more viable.

Similarly, a superstar who is too strong will get their cards modified, either through revisions or through Shenanigans, to help smooth out the top of the power curve. The People's Team is a great example. Their "Most Electrifying Champions" card originally reduced all the numbers in their ability by 1, which was insanely strong. In All Axxess, the nearly irreversable Dirty Low Blow TB and <R> Transition Hold, by themselves, would shut off their opponent's hand; one more maneuver, and the Backlash was gone, too. In the most recent revision, the card was rewritten; it no longer interacts with their ability, but gives them a benefit when their cards are reversed from hand or Backlash, to help them survive until they can stick enough maneuvers to trigger their ability for real.

There certainly are decks and cards that are stronger than others, but the best thing to do is to get a deck idea and go from there. Either find a wrestler you like, as Crasher suggested, and see what blends well with them, or decide on something you want to do and figure out whose ability, backstage, and prematch cards enable that the best.

I can also recommend reading through the Superstar Strategy Guides. They may not all be fully up to date (several were posted before the most recent revisions, and I can't say for sure that they don't include superstars who've been revised) but it's worth looking at how people think about given decks, and what they are and aren't good at.

Rules Forum / Re: Basic question
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:38:16 PM »
4D or less. (4D+, similarly, is 4D or greater.)

I’m definitely down for another of these.

Welcome (back) to Raw Deal / Re: Backlash Reversals
« on: January 12, 2018, 04:42:33 PM »
Other nearly-mandatory stuff: if you are Raw, King Interferes and Undermine the Competition. If you are Heel, Unscrupulous SOB.

Rules Forum / Re: The weirdest rules question I've had
« on: January 11, 2018, 03:58:39 PM »
Yes, it's legal.  Neither card is a Throwback, so that rule doesn't apply.

Weird that the names are so similar, but no issues.


Off topic from the question, but a follow up to the Throwback mention.
With a Superstar card being Unique and considered to have the same name as the card title, is the Throwback necessary for this rule to take effect?

Superstar Cards are not unique, as Dude Love may pack 3 Mankind and 3 Cactus Jack in his Arsenal.

Quote from: OmniFAQ
Dude Love
-The Mankind and Cactus Jack Superstar cards are of the card type: Superstar Card. They do not do anything other than take up space in your Arsenal/Hand/Ringside pile, except where specifically noted.
-The Superstar cards in Dude’s Arsenal are not Unique. They cannot be searched for with One of a Kind.

Rules Forum / Re: Teddy long question
« on: January 06, 2018, 09:28:37 AM »
Always Bet on Black
Backstage Card
When packing this card, your Starting Hand Size is +5 and you can pack up to 7 additional Pre-match cards, but you cannot pack Enforcers or I'm Gonna Break You.
Once during each of your turns, you may play a non-Set-up non-hybrid non-Unique non-Active Pre-match Event, and ignore the 'At the end of the Pre-match phase' text on it.
Unique     RMS logo

Does the rules of maximum 12 prematch slot still applies here or can we play up til 19( 12+ up to 7)

There are two things going on here.

First, there is no rule capping a player at playing 12 Pre-Match cards; during the Pre-Match you may play as many cards as you have valid slots. If you pack 12 Pre-Match cards, and Backstage Shenanigans in one of your Mid-Match slots, you may play all 13 of those cards in the Pre-Match provided you have the slots to do so.

Second, Pre-Match capacity has no relevance to the game once the Pre-Match phase ends. Teddy may play his additional Pre-Match events (provided they are not Set-Ups, Hybrid, Unique, or Active) as normal cards, and they may be reversed by cards that reverse a card, a non-Unique card, or a non-maneuver card.

Lackey Tournaments / Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« on: January 05, 2018, 11:26:04 PM »
Can't speak for everyone else, but I'd like to see them.

Fantasy Cards / Re: Premiere _______ Superstar
« on: January 05, 2018, 01:50:27 PM »
I love the theme behind each of these, but I can't help but think that Premiere WCW Superstar would get really, really stupid with Arn Anderson. One belt, and every successful WCW card results in a discard and either 4 cards of his choice or 2 cards of his choice and 4 non-maneuvers put on the bottom of his deck... and at least half the cards in his deck trigger that. As written, even his unsuccessful stuff puts back two cards. That is WAY too much sponge potential, IMO.

Lackey Tournaments / Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
« on: January 04, 2018, 07:39:33 AM »
Sure, why the hell not?

General Discussion: Raw Deal / Re: Superstar Spotlight Index
« on: January 03, 2018, 11:43:14 PM »
I am allowing duplicates as well, don't forget.

Easy enough to account for. If a duplicate happens to come up, I'll just put a {2} in the same cell, next to the superstar name, and that will be the URL to the second one.

By the by, since I'm posting, in honor of Rusev Day, I've updated the list through Rusev.

General Discussion: Raw Deal / Re: Superstar Spotlight Index
« on: December 25, 2017, 10:48:16 AM »
The list has been updated with the VHS3 superstars, and with a link to the Leader of the Peepulation spotlight.

From here on out, I'm only going to mention updates to the list of superstars; I'll add links as needed, but won't mention that every time I do it. I'll still try to keep it up to date within a few days of a new spotlight being posted.

Rules Forum / Re: Demolition Question
« on: December 24, 2017, 12:46:34 PM »
1 GTFO will reverse the card completely. In order for that not to happen, Here Comes the Ax would have to include "and ignore 'completely' on your opponent's reversals to it," which is similar to the effect on Andre the Giant's Giant Eiffel Tower.

By the by, questions of this nature would probably fit best in the Rules Forum, so people will think to look for a thread like this if they have a similar question in the future.

Raw Deal Online / Re: LackeyCCG Errors/Updates
« on: December 21, 2017, 03:31:46 PM »
The NXT format Skirt the Issue errata card is missing, and there are two entries for This is MY Hometown!

I don't think I've ever laughed as hard at any tabletop game. That was spectacular.

General Discussion: Raw Deal / Re: Superstar Spotlight Index
« on: December 20, 2017, 07:54:38 AM »
Awesome! I was wondering if I miss the creation of this.
Also, should we send requests to Rated SRH for new articles?

Yeah, requests for new articles should go to Rated SRH. I'm not involved in posting the Superstar Spotlights; I just saw that this didn't exist, and felt that it should.

I also hated The Mystery Wrestler. Just sticks out like a sore thumb when so many other superstars should have made print.

My memory could be faulty, or I may only have part of the story, but as I recall, the issue that resulted in The Mystery Wrestler was that CI was told to replace Mick Foley too close to release. There wasn't time to design and test a new superstar; they only had time to make a slightly different face card and logo and push it out.

General Discussion: Raw Deal / Re: Superstar Spotlight Index
« on: December 20, 2017, 12:00:31 AM »
   Revolution Andre the Giant      Revolution JeriShow      Revolution Sabu   
   Revolution Balls Mahoney      Revolution John Cena      Revolution Sandman   
   Revolution Batista      Revolution John Laurinaitis      Revolution Santino Marella   
   Revolution Brock Lesnar      Revolution Kane      Revolution Shawn Michaels   
   Revolution Brothers of Destruction      Revolution Kevin Thorn      Revolution Sheamus   
   Revolution bWo      Revolution King Booker      Revolution Stone Cold Steve Austin   
   Revolution Carlito      Revolution Kofi Kingston      Revolution Tajiri   
   Revolution Cesaro      Revolution Kurt Angle      Revolution Tazz   
   Revolution Chris Jericho      Revolution Marcus CorVon      Revolution Terry Funk   
   Revolution Christian      Revolution Mark Henry      Revolution Test   
   Revolution CM Punk      Revolution Matt Hardy      Revolution The Big Show   
   Revolution Daniel Bryan      Revolution Matt Striker      Revolution The Great Khali   
   Revolution Dudley Boyz      Revolution Randy Orton      Revolution The Rock   
   Revolution Dolph Ziggler      Revolution Rated RKO      Revolution The Shield   
   Revolution DX      Revolution Raven      Revolution The Ultimate Warrior   
   Revolution Edge      Revolution Rey Mysterio      Revolution The Wyatt Family   
   Revolution Elijah Burke      Revolution Rhyno      Revolution Tommy Dreamer   
   Revolution Goldberg      Revolution Ric Flair      Revolution Triple H    
   Revolution Hardy Boyz      Revolution Rob Van Dam      Revolution Umaga   
   Revolution Hulk Hogan      Revolution Rowdy Roddy Piper      Revolution Undertaker   
   Revolution Jack Swagger      Revolution Ryback      Revolution William Regal   
   Revolution Jeff Hardy   

General Discussion: Raw Deal / Re: Superstar Spotlight Index
« on: December 20, 2017, 12:00:16 AM »
CLASSIC (N-Z)                              
   Natalya      Stacy Keibler      The Mystery Wrestler   
   Nation of Domination      Stardust      The Natural Disasters   
   New Age Outlaws      Stephanie McMahon      The Nature Boy   
   New Nexus      Stevie Richards      The New Day   
   Nicky      Sting      The Nexus   
   Nidia      Stone Cold Steve Austin      The People's Champion   
   Nikki Bella      Summer Rae      The People's Team   
   Nikki Bella TB      Tajiri      The Phenom   
   Nikolai Volkoff      Tazz      The Radicalz   
   Norman Smiley      Team Angle      The Rated R Superstar   
   nWo Hollywood      Team Hell No      The Rattlesnake   
   nWo Wolfpack      Team X-Treme TB      The Rhodes Brothers   
   Owen Hart      Ted DiBiase      The Road Warriors   
   Paige      Tensai      The Rock   
   Paul Heyman      Terry Funk      The Rock & Sock Connection   
   Priceless      Test      The Rockers   
   Prime Time Players      The 8th Wonder of the World TB      The Rowdy One   
   Randy Orton      The Beast Incarnate      The Second Coming   
   Rated RKO      The Bella Twins      The Sexy Beast   
   Raven      The Best Wrestler in the World      The Shield   
   Ravishing Rick Rude      The Blue Blazer      The Showstopper   
   Raw Guest Host      The Boogeyman      The Spirit Squad   
   Razor Ramon      The Bookerman      The Steiner Brothers   
   René Duprée      The Brood      The Stinger   
   Rey Mysterio      The Brain Busters      The Texas Rattlesnake   
   Rhyno      The Champ      The Total Package   
   Ric Flair      The Charismatic Enigma      The Ultimate Survivor   
   Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat      The Corre      The Ultimate Warrior   
   Right to Censor      The Crippler      The Usos   
   Rikishi      The Dangerous Alliance      The Viper   
   Road Dogg      The Devil's Favorite Demon      The Wyatt Family   
   Rob Van Dam      The Dudley Family      Theodore Long   
   Roman Reigns      The Four Horsemen      Titus O'Neil   
   Rowdy Roddy Piper      The Future of Sports Entertainment      Tommy Dreamer   
   R-Truth      The Game      Too Cool   
   Rusev      The Genetic Jackhammer      Torrie Wilson   
   Ryback      The Godfather      Triple H   
   Sable      The Great Khali      Trish Stratus   
   Sabu      The Great One      Two Man Power Trip   
   Sami Zayn      The Hart Dynasty      Umaga   
   Sandman      The Heart Break Kid TB      Undertaker   
   Santino Marella      The Heat Seekers      Vader   
   Sasha Banks      The Highlight of the Night      Val Venis   
   Saturn      The Home Team      Vickie Guerrero   
   Scott Hall      The Hurri-Friends      Victoria   
   Scotty 2 Hotty      The Immortal One      Vince McMahon   
   Seth Rollins      The Iron Shiek      Viscera   
   Sgt. Slaughter      The King of Kings TB      Vladimir Kozlov   
   Shane O'Mac      The Largest Athlete in Sports Entertainment      Wade Barrett   
   Shawn Michaels      The Last Outlaw      William Regal   
   Sheamus      The Legacy      Xavier Woods   
   Shelton Benjamin      The Lionheart      X-Pac   
   Sheriff Austin      The Lone Warrior TB      X-treme Diva   
   Sid      The McMahon Dynasty      Yokozuna   
   Sin Cara      The Mega Powers      Your Freaking Hero   
   Skip Sheffield      The Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase      Zack Ryder   
   Spike Dudley      The Miz   

General Discussion: Raw Deal / Superstar Spotlight Index
« on: December 19, 2017, 11:59:57 PM »
So, with Rated SRH bringing the Superstar Spotlight back, I decided to do something that I've wanted to see for a while now. I've created an index of all the previously posted Superstar Spotlights, and am going to dump them in this thread so that anyone who wants to find ones that have already been done will have an easy way of doing so. This may also save some time with people possibly suggesting duplicates, if they aren't aware of a prior one. So, here goes, and let's see if I formatted this monster correctly.

CLASSIC (A-M)                              
   3MB      Daniel Bryan      Jeff Hardy   
   3 Minute Warning      Darren Young      Jeff Jarrett   
   A.J. Lee      David Otunga      JeriShow   
   A.J. Styles      DDP      Jerry Lawler   
   Al Snow      Deadman Inc      Jinder Mahal   
   Alberto Del Rio      Dean Ambrose      John Cena   
   Andre the Giant      Dean Malenko      John Morrison   
   APA      Demolition      Johnny   
   Arn Anderson      Diesel      Johnny Nitro   
   A-Train      Doink      Junkyard Dog   
   B.A. Billy Gunn      Dolph Ziggler      Justin Gabriel   
   Babe of the Year      Drew McIntyre      Kaientai   
   Bam Bam Bigelow      Dude Love      Kane   
   Batista      Dudley Boyz      Ken Kennedy   
   Bayley      Dusty Rhodes      Ken Shamrock   
   Becky Lynch      D-Von Dudley      Kenny   
   Beth Phoenix      Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson      Kevin Nash   
   Big Boss Man      DX      Kevin Owens   
   Big E      Eddie Guerrero      Kofi Kingston   
   Big Freak'n Machine      Edge      Kurt Angle   
   Big Poppa Pump      Edge & Christian      Lance Storm   
   Big Show      Eric Bischoff      Lashley   
   Billy & Chuck      Erick Rowan      Latino Cheat   
   Bobby Heenan      Eugene      Lay-Cool   
   Booker T      Evan Bourne      Leader of the Edge Army   
   Braun Strowman      Eve      Leader of the Peepulation   
   Bray Wyatt      Evolution      Legion of Doom   
   Bret "The Hitman" Hart      Ezekiel Jackson      Lex Luger   
   Brie Bella      Fandango      Lita   
   Brie Bella TB      FBI      Los Guerreros   
   British Bulldog      Festus      Luke Harper   
   Brock Lesnar      Finlay      Macho Man Randy Savage   
   Brodus Clay      Funaki      Mae Young   
   Brothers of Destruction      Gail Kim      Mankind   
   Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake      Gail Kim & Molly Holly      Mark Henry   
   Buh-Buh Ray Dudley      Gallows & Anderson      Maryse   
   bWo TB      Gene Snitsky      Matt Hardy   
   Cactus Jack      Goldberg      Melina   
   Carlito      Goldust      Mexicools   
   Carlito & Primo Colon      Hacksaw Jim Duggan      Michael Cole   
   Cesaro      Hall & Nash      Michael Tarver   
   Charlotte      Hardy Boyz      Mick Foley   
   Chavo Guerrero      Harlem Heat      Mickie James   
   Chris Benoit      Hart Foundation      Mikey   
   Chris Jericho      Heath Slater      Mitch   
   Chris Masters      Heidenreich      Miz & Morrison   
   Christian      Hollywood Hulk Hogan      MNM   
   Christy      Honky Tonk Man      Molly Holly   
   Chyna      Hurricane      Money Inc.   
   Chyna Doll      Irwin R. Schyster      Moolah   
   CM Punk      Jack Swagger      Mr. Pay-Per-View   
   Cody Rhodes      Jake the Snake      Mr. Perfect   
   Cryme Tyme      Jamie Noble      Muhammad Hassan   
   Damian Sandow      JBL      MVP   

Rules Forum / Re: Paul Heyman vs Feminine Wiles
« on: December 15, 2017, 10:15:42 PM »
Pre-Match Stipulations are not Backstage cards, even if they are packed in the Backstage, in much the same way as Superstar cards are not Backstage cards, despite being revealed from the Backstage at the start of the game. Feminine Wiles can no more blank Heyman's Chicago Street Fight than it could blank Paul Heyman himself.

Fantasy Cards / Re: Request: Usos with updated art
« on: December 14, 2017, 10:48:19 AM »
The United States Postal Service
Hand Size: 4
Superstar Value: 5
Superstar Ability: When your opponent's card searches any arsenal or moves any card from any ringside, he may discard a card. If he does not, you may draw up to two. Your card titled Small Package is Unique, +20F, +20D, a Trademark Finisher, and it's text reads "Reverse any card."

Neither Snow Nor Rain Nor Heat Nor Gloom of Night
Pre-Match: Event
At the end of the Pre-Match phase, look at your opponent's hand and choose up to four cards. You may search your arsenal for a copy of each card chosen and put it into your hand.
Put any heat cards in your opponents hand on the bottom of his arsenal.
F:0 D:0

We Make Deliveries a Priority!
Backstage Area Card
While packing this card you may pack the card titled "Delivering The Goods", it is non-unique, is not Raw and you may ignore the "Can Only Be Played After" text.
On your turn you may hide this card and search your arsenal for a card with "Deliver" or "Package" in the title, reveal it to your opponent and put it into your hand.

Return Receipt
Reversal: Special
Completely reverse any non-Superstar-Specific card. You may search your Ringside and Arsenal for a card with that title, put it in your hand, and shuffle; if you do, you may play it as the first card on your turn, it is F:0, and ignore the "Can only be played" text. If you do not, you may play that card from your opponent's Ringside as the first card on your turn, it is F:0, blank, and reversals to that card do not end your turn, then put it in your opponent's Ringside regardless of other effects.
F:0 D:0

General Chat / Re: Daeva's 24-Hour Post-Whore Depot
« on: December 13, 2017, 09:44:53 AM »
Happy oldening, Daeva and Crasher!

Fantasy Cards / Re: Your Freakin' GM
« on: December 11, 2017, 09:55:17 AM »
Your Freakin' GM
Handsize: 0+
Superstar Value: 3+
GM Superstar Ability: You may pack enforcers, Integrity, Intensity, and Intelligence in your backstage area. Your Enforcers have no brands. Reveal one enforcer and choose one enforcer. At the end of the Pre-Match phase, put Integrity, Intensity, and Intelligence from your backstage into your ring. You may pack Unique Kurt Angle specific arsenal cards, they are not Face or Heel, and are Raw instead of Smackdown.

Looking at Someone's hand and drawing an extra card per turn would be awful for many packable enforcers, especially Cole.

It’s no worse than you get with Heenan packing Evening Up the Odds, though.

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