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Virtual Raw Deal / Bam Bam Bigelow
« on: January 11, 2019, 10:53:28 AM »

Let me preface this post by saying that this isn't an attack or criticism of the virtual team or anyone on TCO. This is mearly one players opinion.

I feel like there is no reason to play as Bam Bam Bigelow and he needs help. He's probably the least playable superstar from V4. His superstar ability costs too much for too little. Sure, he gets Million Dollar Corporation support, but those cards don't help him that much compared to the other members. His ability to make Cartwheel an omni reversal is his best quality, but his specific reversal makes cartwheel worse.

There are other superstars that do what he does, only better (Vader, Rusev, RVD, even someone like Big Pappa Pump can discount their cards at much less of a cost). And by the time you have enough stun value in your ring, you probably already have enough Fortitude to play the card anyway. I know Bigelow can discount any CARD, but a lot of actions don't make it into a lot of decks due to the fear of OSWM.

His first maneuver is all but guaranteed to get Restricted Use/Reach Exceeds Your Grasp, if not reversed regularly from hand.

Why restrict his volley maneuvers with Asbury Park? Bookerman has a much more powerful ability to protect his volley moves, and much better support. Bam Bam feels restricted to Tech Drop Kicks, DLB, and a few high risks. It's very hard to get started with him.

Bigelow's specific cards are decent, but not all THAT great, and he doesnt have many.

I think if Bigelow got an ECW Backstage card, it would make his MUCH more playable. He could pack house that hardcore built, discount his Foreign Objects (a lot of which have stun value), then his Ability would help more and earlier, and he wouldn't take non-unique damage to his FO's.

Again, I only bring this up because you guys actually take player feedback into account. And I'm also willing to listen to other players who may have had a successful Bam Bam build.

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Rules Forum / Bo Dallas
« on: January 06, 2019, 10:30:26 AM »
The Inspirational
Backstage Card
Your A Chorus of Boos cards are not Active, do not take up a Pre-match slot in your Ring, your Fortitude Rating is +1 for every copy in your Ring, replace 'your turn' with 'any turn' in its text, Your reversals affected by that card deal no damage, and once during any turn when you have lower Fortitude, your opponent cannot reverse the effect when you Activate it.
When played as a reversal, your Borrring... Borrring...!!! cards read 'Reverse any non-maneuver card.'
Unique     RMS logo     NXT logo

According to the Contract Table
Action: Foreign Object
When this card is in your Ring area, once during each of your turns, as a Mid-match Action, you may name 1 non-unique non-Superstar-specific card and then all copies of this card in all Ring areas are considered to also have that title until the start of your next turn.
Active 
F: 3      D: 0

If Bo names Chorus of Boos for Contract Table, can he name it something else during his opponent's turn?

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Deck Reviews - Virtual / Lance Storm
« on: January 05, 2019, 02:24:41 PM »
Lance Storm

Backstage:

I'm From Calgary...Alberta, Canada!
Dawn Marie: Dangerous Manipulator
The House That Hardcore Built
All Shenanigans
All Signatures
All Anniversaries

Pre-Match:

Where the Big Boys Play
Extreme Rules Match
Managed by Dawn Marie
Product Endorsements
Old School Psych
Halloween Havoc
The Un-Americans
Welcome to Monday Nitro!
Playing by the Rules
Ruthless Agression
One of the Big Boys
Underrated Superstar

Mid-Match:

Backlash!
You're as Graceful as a Cow on Ice
Sustained Damage
Reach/Grasp
King Interferes
Restricted Use
Old school brawl
Ready to Fight
Cheap Accolades x3
RTV

Reversals:

Sidewalk slam
Hold the Phone x3
Sloppy x3
Volley This x2
Once is Enough x3
Revo of the mind x3
DTTAH x2
Ole!
Get Back in the Ring x2
Douchebag
Raw deal revolution
Counter strike
It's great to be back here in... x3
Ax Kick x3
Spine Buster x2
Knee Lift x2

Actions:

Don't Blame Canada - Blame Yourself!
If I could be Serious for a moment...
Ready to Rumble
Turn the tide x2

Maneuvers:

Storms Back Breaker
Lance's Drop Kick
Storms Superkick
Canadian Maple Leaf
Kitchen sink x3
Garbage can lid (tb) x3
Take your own medicine x2
Struck by a kendo stick (tb) x2
Stuck by a kendo stick (non-tb) x1
Shoot Lock-up x2
Chair
Trash can (tb)
Chain lashing (tb)
Table
Ladder

This deck is super fun and also pretty competitive.

Play all the Pre-Match. I usually search for his 2 TMFs for the allegiance, just so I dont draw them in my opening hand. Un-Americans is SUCH a good card. Search for whatever reversal you need in hand with his backstage (usually revo, volley this, or Douchebag). Halloween Havoc could be replaced with One Night Stand.

For the reversal base, I wanted to pack a lot of reversals that hit multiple cards. Ax Kick, get back in the ring, Spine Buster, and knee lift can be difference makers. And with storms ability, falling behind in F isnt a bad thing.

The actions are simple. I didnt include much recovery because of his backstage card.

Since Storm is ECW, he doesnt take non-unique damage from his FOs being reversed. This makes a card like Kitchen Sink a great card to play (and usually at a heavily discounted F cost). If they reverse the 3 moves, you take no damage and recover (at least) 6 at random.

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Fantasy Cards / Easy-E (Eric Bischoff remake)
« on: January 04, 2019, 02:42:58 PM »
Easy-E (Eric Bischoff remake)
Hand Size: 6
Superstar Value: 3
WCW/NWO Superstar Ability: Once during each of your turns you may discard 2 cards, look at your opponent's hand and choose 1 card. When it is a reversal, he must discard 1 card to play it in response to your next card played this turn. You may pack cards as if you are a Chairman, and Eric Bischoff specific cards (they are now WCW and NWO cards, and not Raw). You cannot pack Set-up, Chain, Raw, or ECW cards, cards with 'McMahon' in the title, or non-F:0 Grapple or Submissions.

Giving Away the Business (Throwback)
Backstage Area
You may play Where The Big Boys Play during any Pre-Match phase.
When the card chosen for your Ability is an action or maneuver, you may choose to end your turn. If you do, your opponent must play the chosen card immediately after his draw segment (if he meets all play requirements).
Unique

The Monday Night War (+ Vince McMahon logo)
Mid-Match: Action
Cannot be blanked or moved from your ring by your opponent's effects.
Your opponent cannot respond to this card when you have a Raw card or Welcome to Monday Nitro! in your ring.
When this card is in your ring, your Fortitude Rating is considered to be greater than your opponent's Fortitude Rating for your card effects.
During your turn, you may choose to blank this card until the start of your next turn.
RMS
Unique
F: 0 D: 0

83 Weeks
Action
When your F is greater than your opponent's F, draw until you have 8 cards in hand, and your opponent discards 3 cards.
When The Monday Night War is in your ring, During your turn, you may ACE: remove this card from the game, shuffle up to 8 cards from your ringside into your arsenal, draw up to 3 cards, and then remove The Monday Night War from the game.
Unique
F: 8 D: 3

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Rules Forum / Tag team title belts
« on: January 03, 2019, 12:01:15 PM »
Here Comes the Cavalry!
Action + Action
Cannot be packed when you can pack the Tag Team Title Belts or by a Stable.
When your opponent can pack the Tag Team Title Belts, they discard 2 cards and overturn 2 cards.
Shuffle up to 8 cards from your Ringside into your Arsenal and draw up to 2 cards.  When your Ability has "enforcer" in the text, you may also choose a new Enforcer.
F: 10     D: 0     Unique     Multi

Is the bolded text a catch-all for any tag team title belts? Because I've noticed that the NXT title belts have no "can only be packed" text, so does the first effect hit everyone now?

Edit: text for reference

NXT Tag Team Title Belts
Pre-match Object
When you are an NXT Superstar, your Starting Hand Size is +1, and when you are a Tag Team, your opponent's Starting Hand Size is -1.
When you are Neville, The Wyatt Family, The Ascension, The Vaudevillains, or American Alpha, at the end of the Pre-match phase, put up to 1 non-Unique card from your Ringside into your hand.
Superstar Value +1     Universally Unique

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Fantasy Cards / Mean Gene Okerlund
« on: January 02, 2019, 09:40:54 PM »
Mean Gene Okerlund
Hand Size: 0+
Superstar Value: 1+
Legend Superstar Ability: Your opponent may only reveal up to 1 non-superstar specific non-enforcer backstage card without 'shenanigans' in the title, and he cannot play cards with 'interview' in the title. You may pack Enforcers in your Backstage Area; when you reveal your Superstar card, reveal 1 Enforcer card and choose 1 Enforcer.  You may not pack ECW or nWo cards.

WWE Confidential
Backstage Area
When packing this card, your cards with 'Mic' in the title are not heel.
Once during each of your turns you may remove a revealed non-enforcer card in your backstage area from the game, look at your opponent's hand, and then draw up to 3 cards and put that many cards from your hand on the bottom of your arsenal.
Unique

Legends House (+Hacksaw Jim Duggan logo, +Rowdy Roddy Piper logo)
Pre-Match Event
This card is considered to have 'Old school' in the title.
When your opponent's card or card effect would allow him to look at your hand, he does not look and ignore that effect.
Your opponent cannot prevent you from playing cards with 'Old school' in the title.
WWF Logo
Permanent
Unique
F: 0 D: 0

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Fantasy Cards / Ernest "The Cat" Miller
« on: January 01, 2019, 12:08:54 AM »
Ernest "The Cat" Miller
Hand Size: 3
Superstar Value: 3
WCW Superstar Ability: Your opponent must discard 2 cards to play hybrid reversal cards. You may pack Funk Is On A Role! and Somebody Call My Mama!. You cannot pack non-strike maneuvers, unless they have 'Judo' in the title.

3-Time World Karate Champion
Backstage Area
Your hand size is +3.
Your Strikes are +1D for every 3 cards under WCW cards in your ring. When that maneuver has 'kick' in the title, +3D for every 3 cards instead.
WCW Logo
Unique

Managed by Sonny Onoo
Pre-Match Manager
Cannot be blanked. Cannot be moved from your ring. Your opponent cannot prevent you from playing this card.
Once during each of your turns you may put 1 card from hand under this card.
ACE: Once during any turn, you may put a card from under a WCW card on the bottom of your arsenal and then play a card from under this card as if from hand.
WCW Logo
Unique
F: 0 D: 0

I'm About to Whoop Somebody!
Mid-Match: Action/Reversal: Special
As an action, this card is F:0 and your opponent cannot respond to it. Search your arsenal for any maneuver, put it into your hand, shuffle.
As a reversal, this card is -1F for each card under a WCW card in your ring. Reverse any non-unique maneuver.
WCW Logo
Unique
F: 10 D: 0

Feline Front Kick
Strike/Reversal: Strike
As a maneuver, when this card is not played from under a WCW card 'as if from hand' this card is multi.
As a reversal, when played from under a WCW card 'as if from hand' this card is -2F and -6D, reverse any strike.
WCW Logo
Unique
F: 6 D: 12

The Feliner
Trademark Finisher
When played from under a WCW card 'as if from hand', can only be reversed by Hybrid Cards or Step Aside.
Your opponent discards 3 cards.
WCW Logo
SV: 2
Unique
F: 30 D: 20

I'm the Greatest!
Action
Search your arsenal and put up to 1 card under each WCW card in your ring, and then draw up to that many cards.
WCW Logo
Unique
F: 5 D: 0

I'll Fight Anybody!
Action
Your opponent's cards are -1D for every 3 cards under WCW cards in your ring.
When you have 10+ lower F, they are instead -3D for every 3 cards under a WCW card in your ring.
WCW Logo
Unique
F: 15 D: 0

Dancing Like James Brown
Reversal: Maneuver
Put up to 3 cards in your hand under a WCW card in your ring, draw that many cards, and opponent discards that many cards.
WCW Logo
Unique
F: 20 D: 0


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Deck Reviews - Virtual / I.R.S.
« on: December 31, 2018, 12:03:00 PM »
IRS

Backstage:

Mr. Fuji's Cane
All Shenanigans
All Signatures
All Anniversaries

Pre-Match:

Saturday Night's Main Event
I Aims ta be Startin' Sump'tin'
Managed by Mr. Fuji
The Million Dollar Corporation
Everybody Has to Think About Paying Taxes!
You're All a Bunch of Tax Cheats
Jesse The Body Ventura, Guest Ringside Announcer
The Opening Volley
You Will Witness History
A No Show
Underrated Superstar
Pyrotechnic Volley

Mid-Match:

Backlash!
You're as Graceful as a Cow on Ice
Outside Interference
Unscrupulous SOB
Flawless Transition
Sustained Damage
Reach/Grasp
IRS Briefcase
Restricted Use
The King Interferes
Volley Finisher x2

Reversals:

Manager Interferes x3
I gotta say out of play x3
DTTAH x2
You cant cheat an honest Man x2
Backslide
Inside cradle
Sidewalk slam x2
You're a jive soul bro
Get the f out x2
Elbow x2
Carlito says
Nerve hold
Volley this x3
Douchebag
Revo of the mind x3
Divine
Shocking interference

Actions:

Puppies x2
Cavalry
You will be bought
Pay your taxes or else...
...I'll come after you
Tax tips from IRS
A vicious corporate takeover
It's all about the money
Finding a tax shelter

Maneuvers:

Fisticuffs
Vise lock
Body lock
Quick snap body slam
Back fist
Ap chaki kick
Atomic driver
Thrust knee lift x2
Cold cooked
Fujiwara arm bar
Thrust kick
Flurry of strikes
Verticle DDT drop
Reverse Clothesline
Kidney punch
Pendulum Back Breaker
Punch after punch
IRS Abdominal Stretch
The Write-Off

I've been having a lot of fun playing this deck.

Play all pre-match. I usually search for QSBS and Thrust knee lift with You will Witness history,  discarding the knee lift for Pyro volley. Opponent usually has at least 3 cards RFG during the pre-match, at least 2 more during my first turn.

Use EHtTAPT to fuel your ability, and if they remove a card from hand, play more chain, if they remove from ringside, play more volley.

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Rules Forum / Corbin
« on: December 28, 2018, 11:36:42 AM »
Superhuman
Backstage Card
Ignore your opponent’s effects (except from cards with 'Shenanigans' in the title) that would prevent you from playing Pre-match cards, ignore the 'You cannot play...' text on WWE Homecoming, and when your non-Backlash effect would cause you to discard Mid-match cards, do not discard and ignore the effect.
When your card is unsuccessful and you have 10- cards in Arsenal, you may shuffle up to 2 non-Unique non-reversal cards from Ringside into your Arsenal.
Unique     RMS logo     NXT logo

Lariat Takedown
Strike + Grapple
Cannot be packed by Female Superstars. 
Can only be played when you have 4 or more cards in your Backlash deck. 
When successfully played, reveal 4 random cards from your Backlash deck, put 3 of them into your Ringside pile, and put the fourth into your Backlash deck. After damage has been applied, end your turn. 
 (Restricted Modification Symbol)
Multi
F: 0      D: 7

In a previous thread, Creed stated that the bolded text was a work around for Lariat Takedown. However, Lariat Takedown isnt a discard effect anymore. Should Superhuman have different wording, or is it going to stay as is? Thanks!

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Fantasy Cards / A Few Non Specifics
« on: December 27, 2018, 09:26:56 PM »
Kayfabe Shenanigans
Backstage Area
No player may blank or switch any Superstar Ability (except by cards with 'shenanigans' in the title).
After your opponent's card that cannot be responded to resolves, you may hide this card to end his turn.
Unique

Sports Entertainment
Backstage Area
Reveal this card when your opponent plays a card with 'old school' in the title.
Cannot be packed when packing cards with 'old school' 'wrestle' or 'wrestling' in the title.
During your turn you may discard 2 cards. If you do, you are not effected by his stipulations with 'old school' in the title until the start of your next turn.
Unique

Heat Finisher
Trademark Finisher: Heat
Cannot be played from hand.
When this card is unsuccessful, remove it from the game.
SV: 2
Unique
F: 25 D: 15

Technical Finisher
Trademark Finisher/Action
Cannot be reversed by Hold the Phone or Ax Kick.
As a maneuver, can only be played when you have 5+ maneuvers in your ring with 'technical' in the title.
As an action, this card is -30F, shuffle this card into your arsenal.
When successfully played, search your arsenal for a non-unique card with 'technical' in the title, reveal it, put it into your hand, and shuffle.
SV: 2
RMS Logo
Unique
F: 30 D: 20

Blindside Finisher
Trademark Finisher
You may play this card from your ringside pile.
Can only be played if you have 10+ cards removed from the game, and 5+ cards in your ring and/or ringside with 'blindside' in the title.
SV: 1
RMS Logo
Unique
F: 20 D: 15

Foreign Object Finisher
Trademark Finisher: Foreign Object
You cannot move this card from ringside with an effect from a stipulation or maneuver.
Can only be played when you have 5+ Foreign Object maneuvers in your ring, or have Allegiance: ECW.
Cannot be reversed by Face or Heel cards, or Sidewalk Slam.
SV: 3
RMS Logo
Permanent
Unique
F: 30 D: 20

Precision Finisher
Trademark Finisher
When played, you may remove up to # cards in your hand from the game. This card is -2F for each card removed this way.
When successfully played, your opponent discards # cards.
# cannot be greater than 5.
SV: 2
RMS Logo
Unique
F: 30 D: 20

Shoot Finisher
Trademark Finisher
Can only be played when you have 5+ maneuvers in your ring with with 'shoot' in the title.
Cannot be reversed unique cards.
SV: 2
RMS Logo
Unique
F: 25 D: 15

Girly Finisher
Trademark Finisher
Can only be packed by a Diva, and can be packed regardless of Superstar Ability.
Can only be played when you have 5+ maneuvers in your ring with 'Female' or 'Diva' in the text.
Cannot be reversed by D: 2- cards.
SV: 0
RMS Logo
Unique
F: 15 D: 10

Classic Finisher
Trademark Finisher
Can only be packed by a WWF or Legend superstar. When packing this card, you may only pack 1 other Trademark Finisher.
If this card is reversed from arsenal, your turn does not end. If your next card is Go For The Cover, your opponent cannot respond to it.
SV: 2
RMS Logo
F: 20 D: 15

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Rules Forum / Samoa Joe Question
« on: December 24, 2018, 02:54:28 PM »
The Samoan Submission Machine
Backstage Area
Once during each of your turns, you may put 1 card from your hand on the bottom of your Arsenal, and then reveal 1 Submission from your hand or Ringside; put the revealed card under this card.
Your maneuvers are -3F for each card under this card.
Once during each of your turns, you can play a maneuver under this card, ignoring the Volley trait.
Unique     RMS logo     NXT logo

The Right Hand of Destruction
Pre-match Event
Once before each of your Draw Segments, when this card is in your Ring or Ringside, or removed from the game, you may put it in your Ring or Ringside, or remove it from the game; when you move it to your Ring from another area, your opponent overturns 1 card.
When this card is in your Ringside, you may reveal a Strike for The Samoan Submission Machine instead of a Submission; when this card is removed from the game, you may reveal a Grapple instead.
F: 0     D: 0     Unique     NXT logo

Does my played strike lose its volley trait?

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Fantasy Cards / The Hulkster
« on: December 23, 2018, 10:10:48 PM »
The Hulkster
Hand Size: 7
Superstar Value: 7
WWF Legend Superstar Ability: Your arsenal may contain an additional 10 cards. You cannot pack heel or cheater cards, or maneuvers without 'classic' in the title. You may pack No Sell Maneuver cards, and non-backstage Hollywood Hulk Hogan specific cards without 'Hollywood' or 'NWO' in the title, and they are WWF cards and not cheater.

Hogan's Classic Offense
Backstage Area
Cannot be packed when packing Classic Competitor.
When your maneuver with 'classic' in the title is reversed and damage is applied, you may overturn 2 cards and put 1 maneuver with 'Classic' in the title from your ringside into your hand.
When you have lower Fortitude, your maneuvers are multi.
Unique

Fight For What's Right, Fight For Your Life!
Pre-Match: Event
Cannot be blanked.
Your superstar specific cards are considered Fan Favorite.
When Hulkin' Up is in your ring, your opponent cannot respond to your A Legendary Comeback, and ignore its "When this card..." text.
WWF Logo
Permanent
Unique
F:0 D:0

Hulkster's Big Boot
Strike + Strike
When Hulkin' Up is in your ring, can only be reversed by 2 reversal cards.
When played after Irish Whip, can only be reversed from arsenal.
When successfully played, search all areas for Hulkster's Classic Leg Drop, put it into your hand and shuffle.
**
WWF Logo
Unique
F: 10 D: 15

Hulkster's Leg Drop
Trademark Finisher
Can only be played after a successfully played maneuver or as a counter.
When played after a maneuver with 'Slam' or 'Boot' in the title, your opponent cannot respond to this card.
The D of this card is equal to the number of cards in your opponent's arsenal +1.
***
RMS
Unique
F: 25 D: #

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Rules Forum / Dancing Finale
« on: December 14, 2018, 02:25:58 PM »
Dancing Finale
Mid-match Action
When you are about to lose the game, you may put this card in your Ring, discard 2 cards, shuffle up to 10 cards from your Ringside into your Arsenal, draw 2 cards, and end the current turn.
When you are Too Cool, discard 1 less card for your Ability.
F: 2     D: 2     Unique     Permanent     RMS logo
V5

Can this be put into my ring from any area?

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Rules Forum / Nation
« on: December 12, 2018, 07:38:58 PM »
Hit Your Knees and Start Prayin'
Backstage Card
When your opponent's effects cause you to move cards from your hand during the Pre-match phase, you may then draw 1 card.  When his effects would let him look at your hand or Backlash, or cause you to reveal your hand or Backlash, he discards 1 random card.
When you have 10- lower Fortitude, you may hide this card and when your next card played this turn is a non-Run-in printed F:0 maneuver, it cannot be reversed from hand.
Unique     RMS logo
V8

Is it supposed to be 10+ lower F? Or does it mean lower by 10 or less?

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Fantasy Cards / The Blue Meanie
« on: December 10, 2018, 10:35:32 AM »
The Blue Meanie
Hand Size: 5
Superstar Value: 0
ECW Superstar Ability: Your actions played from hand or backlash can only be reversed from the same area they were played from, and cannot be blanked (except by cards with "Shenanigans" in the title). You may pack BWO specific cards with no additional logos, and Stevie Richard's specific cards with "BWO", "Taunt", or "Meanie" in the title.

Da Blue Guy
Backstage Area
Reveal this card when you reveal your superstar card.
Your opponent cannot prevent you from playing actions.
At the end of the Pre-match phase, search your arsenal for any non-Unique Action, reveal it, put it into your hand, and shuffle.
When you play a non-unique maneuver without "reversed" in the text, you may discard 2 cards and that maneuver is now an action instead until it is successfully played.

Blue Meanie Dance
Mid Match: Action + Action
When your opponent's non-superstar-specific pre-match card causes you to overturn or discard any number of cards, you may randomly put half of those cards (rounded down) under We're Taking Over.
Unique
F: 0 D: 0

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Fantasy Cards / The Bar
« on: December 05, 2018, 08:29:34 PM »
The Bar
Hand Size: 8
Superstar Value: 3
Tag Team Superstar Ability: When you play a non set-up maneuver with "Technical" in the title, you may discard 1 card to make that maneuver Multi. You may pack Sheamus and Cesaro superstar specific maneuvers and reversals, and maneuvers with the Tag Team Logo.

We Don't Just Set The Bar...
Backstage Area
Your maneuvers with the tag team logo are considered to have "Technical" in the title.
Your D:0 reversals are considered to be 2 cards when played.
Replace "backstage" in your Sheamus specific maneuvers with "hand".

Backed by The Big Show
Pre-Match: Event
Your opponent's non-unique multi maneuvers do a maximum of D:5
ACE: When your opponent plays a maneuver, you may discard 2 cards to make his maneuver multi until the end of the turn.
Unique
Permanent
F: 0 D: 0

...We Are The Bar!
Action + Action
Choose one: Draw cards until you have more cards in your hand than your opponent, or he discards cards until he has less cards in hand than you.
ACE: During your turn, you may shuffle this card into your arsenal, and then end your turn.

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Rules Forum / DDP
« on: December 03, 2018, 09:40:04 PM »
The Diamond Cutter
Trademark Finisher / Reversal: Special
As a maneuver, when played after a successfully played card or as a Counter, your opponent discards his hand.
As a reversal, when played from hand, reverse any card (even if it 'cannot be reversed').
F: 50     D: 25     SV: 4     Unique     WCW logo
V2

Does opponent discard his hand WHEN PLAYED or when successfully played?

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Rules Forum / R-Truth
« on: November 26, 2018, 01:52:56 PM »
I read somewhere that "Pack" is different than "Contain." So my question is can R-Truth pack BASH cards in his arsenal and backlash, while still having Face/Heel in the Little Jimmy deck? And either way, should one of the cards be reworded to eliminate the redundancy?

R-Truth
Starting Hand Size: 7     Superstar Value: 3
Superstar Ability: Your first maneuver played each turn that is not Chain, Foreign Object, Heat, Multi, Revolution, or Volley is considered Unique.
Your Eve: Dirty Dancer is not Fan Favorite. You can pack High-Flying Style, and you can pack Face and Heel cards in your Little Jimmy Deck, but you cannot pack Face or Heel cards (including Superstar-specific cards) in any other Area; you cannot pack There Is No Escape. Your Arsenal can only contain 50 cards, and your Backlash can only contain 8 Pre-match and 8 Mid-match cards.
V5

The Good R-Truth or... The Bad R-Truth?
Little Jimmy Deck
This deck may contain up to 10 Arsenal Face cards, up to 8 Backlash Face cards, up to 10 Arsenal Heel cards, up to 8 Backlash Heel cards.
When you reveal your Superstar card, reveal either all Face or all Heel cards in this deck, add those Backlash cards to your Backlash, and shuffle those Arsenal cards into your Arsenal.
Unique
V5

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Rules Forum / "From a card"
« on: October 24, 2018, 06:51:59 PM »
If card A makes card B chain, does card B have a reversal restriction "from a card?"

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Rules Forum / Bellas
« on: September 18, 2018, 02:34:53 PM »
The Bella Twins
Starting Handsize: 6     Superstar Value: 1
Diva Superstar Ability:  Once during each of your turns, you may discard 1 card to search your Arsenal for 1 Multi card, reveal it, put it into your hand, and shuffle.  Ignore "completely" on your opponent's reversal cards and reversal effects.
When you successfully play Roll Out of the Ring, you may discard 1 additional card; when you have Handicap Match in your Ring, you may discard 2 additional cards instead.
You are a Tag Team.  You cannot pack Foreign Object maneuver cards.
V3

Find Out How to Fight From Finlay
Pre-match Event
Your opponent cannot play Pre-match cards with the word “old” in the title that are Active or Unique.
Your Action cards with the word “dynamic” in the title are considered Multi cards.
When you play a maneuver with the word “dynamic” in the title, you may name Strike, Grapple, or Submission and the maneuver is instead considered to be that type for the rest of the turn.
Permanent
F: 0 D: 0

Does this mean that the Bella Twins can search for a dynamic action?

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Fantasy Cards / "The Model" Rick Martel
« on: September 14, 2018, 02:45:26 PM »
"The Model" Rick Martel
Hand Size: 7
Superstar Value: 3
WWF Superstar Ability: When your opponent successfully plays a maneuver, you may look at his hand. Your Non-Throwback Boston Crab cards are F:0 and now read "When successfully played, look at your opponent's hand."

Yes. I Am a Model
Backstage Area
Whenever you look at your opponent's hand, you may choose 1 card in his hand. If you do, he shuffles that card into his arsenal and draws a card. If you have 10+ lower F, he does not draw.
RMS logo
Unique

The Model's Shades
Pre-Match Object
When this card is in your ring, your opponent may not look at your hand.
ACE: During any turn, when your opponent would draw cards, you may remove this card from the game, and he does not draw.
Unique WWF Logo
F: 0 D: 0

Blinded by "Arrogance"
Mid-Match Action + Action/Reversal: Special
As an action, this card is -5F. Look at your opponent's hand and choose 2 cards. He shuffles those cards into his arsenal.
As a reversal, reverse any card, and look at your opponent's hand.
Multi
Unique WWF Logo
F: 20 D: 0

Martel's Boston Crab
Trademark Finisher
When your next card played this turn is Maintain Hold, ignore the "Can only be played..." text.
**
Unique
F: 24 D: 20

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Fantasy Cards / King Kong Bundy
« on: September 01, 2018, 09:31:33 AM »
King Kong Bundy
Hand Size: 8
Superstar Value: 3
WWF Superstar Ability: When you successfully play a 5D+ maneuver, after damage is applied, remove up to 2 card in your opponent's ringside from the game. When that maneuver applies 10D+, you may instead remove up to 5 cards in his ringside from the game. You may pack No Sell Maneuver, Managed by The Mouth Of The South Jimmy Hart or Legendary Management. You are a Heenan Family Member and a Million Dollar Corporation member.

The Walking Condominium
Backstae Area
Your opponent cannot play Handicap Match. When that card is in his ring, you may also apply its effects.
Your high risks with 'Splash' or 'Drop' in the title are +5D.
WWF Logo
Unique

You Have Not Been Beaten, Until You've Been Beaten By Bundy
Pre-Match: Event
Choose 1: Your hand size is +2, or your opponent's hand size is -2. When he is a Tag Team or a Stable, choose both.
ACE: During your turn, you may remove this card from the game and your opponent overturns 5 cards.
Unique WWF Logo
F: 0 D: 0

King Kong Shoulder Block
Strike/Reversal: Special
As a maneuver, this card is -5F, and can only be reversed by D:0 reversal cards.
As a reversal, reverse any maneuver played as a counter.
Unique WWF Logo
Unique
F: 5 D: 5

King Kong Knee Drop
High Risk
Can only be played after a successfully played maneuver.
This card is +#D, where # is equal to the number of your opponent's cards removed from the game.
*
Unique WWF Logo
F: 16 D: 5

Atlantic City Avalanche
Trademark Finisher + Trademark Finisher
When played after Throw Opponent into the Corner Turnbuckle, can only be reversed by 2 reversal cards.
When this card applies 15D+, your opponent removes his ringside from the game.
Multi
Unique WWF Logo
***
F: 35 D: 25

I Demand a Five Count!
Action
When played after a successfully played maneuver, can only be reversed from ring.
Your opponent overturns cards until he overturns 5 reversals.
This card is considered a successfully played maneuver.
Unique   WWF Logo
F: 5 D: 0

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Rules Forum / Lantern
« on: August 22, 2018, 12:56:09 PM »
My opponent is batista and I'm bray wyatt. His spinebusters are -10F, but the lanterns makes them +#F. Does the playability check happen before or after the lanterns effects?

Aka, is it F:0 first, or is it 10F + #F - 10F.

The Lantern     (+Wyatt Family logo)
Backstage Card
Cannot be packed when packing Denville, New Jersey or Dallas, Texas.
Your opponent's non-F: 0 cards are +#F, where # is half the number of your non-Backlash cards removed from the game, rounded down.
During his turn, he may overturn any number of cards and then you put the same number of your cards removed from the game on the bottom of your Arsenal.
Unique     RMS logo

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Rules Forum / Intellectual Savior
« on: July 29, 2018, 08:00:25 PM »
The Intellectual Savior of the Masses
Backstage Area
Your Damien Sandow-specific Pre-match cards do not take up a slot in your Ring.
When you successfully play a card that would allow you to choose between one or more effects, you may choose one additional effect.
When your opponent successfully plays a card that allows him to choose one or more different effects, you may choose and apply one of the effects as well.
Unique     RMS logo

If my opponent plays Who Booked This Match? (Tb), what is the timing/order for me to draw or make them discard?

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EDIT: Added card text for more clarity

Who Booked This Match? (TB)
Action: Face
Draw 2 cards or your opponent discards 2 cards.
F: 2      D: 0

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Fantasy Cards / Elias
« on: July 25, 2018, 09:01:07 PM »
Elias
Hand Size: 8
Superstar Value: 3
Superstar Ability: Once during each of your turns when you play a non-multi maneuver you may also immediately play a non-multi throwback maneuver with the same title. Unless both maneuvers are reversed, your turn continues. You may pack up to 4 copies of any non-unique maneuver.

Who Wants To Walk With Elias?
Backstage Area
Cannot be blanked
Your opponent reveals his backlash deck and you may put any Pre-Match: Allegiance or non-unique card without "You cannot play Pre-match cards." in the text into his ring.
When he has Allegiance: WWE he plays with his hand revealed and he cannot activate that card.
When there is a Venue in any ring and you search for I Have A Major Announcement you may search for an additional card.
Unique

Silence Your Cell Phones, Hold Your Applause, and Shut Your Mouths
Pre-Match: Event
Your opponent's hand size, mid-match capacity, and superstar value are -2.
When he has Allegiance: WWE, -3 instead.
Unique RMS
F:0 D:0

Six-String Swing
Mid-Match foreign object Reversal: Card
Your opponent discards half his hand, rounded up.
Unique
F: 28 D: 6

Drift Away
Trademark Finisher
If this card is not reversed and full damage is applied, you win the game via pinfall victory.
***
Unique
F: 34 D: 20

Halo Bomb
Grapple + Grapple
Draw up to 2 cards.
**
Unique
F: 13 D: 15

Elias Flying Elbow Drop
High Risk
Can only be played after a successfully played maneuver.
When played after a non-Throwback maneuver, cannot be reversed from hand.
When played after a Throwback maneuver, cannot be reversed from Backlash.
*
Unique
F: 20 D: 18

Elias Leaping Knee
Reversal: Special
Reverse any non-unique maneuver.
Your opponent may discard 2 cards. If he does not, search your arsenal for a non-unique maneuver, put it into your hand and shuffle.
Unique
F: 7 D: 3

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