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Title: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: krillin678 on February 11, 2018, 10:39:22 PM
3   Recovery elbow to the face
3   Recover Again here comes the cavalry and 2 kickin' it old school
3   Let's Wrestle Already! 1 let's, 2 manager interferes
1   Out of Nowhere
1   Ref Takes a Bump Shoot action tb
1   He's Got the Whole World in His Hands
1   Run
1   The New Face of Fear
1   Fear the Sheep Led by a Wolf
1   Bray's Sambo Suplex
1   Bray's Corner Avalanche
1   Giant Running Senton
1   Flying Cross Forearm
1   The World Eater Crawl
1   Divine Intervention (tb)
1   Do Not Fear The Wolves Led by a Sheep
1   Sister Abigail
3   A Revolution of the Mind (tb)
1   Arm Bar
1   Arm Bar Takedown
1   Arm Drag
1   Atomic Drop
1   Belly to Back Suplex
1   Belly to Belly Suplex
1   Body Slam
1   Chop
1   Clothesline
1   Collar & Elbow Lockup
1   Drop Kick
1   Haymaker
1   Head Butt
1   Hip Toss
1   Punch
1   Roundhouse Punch
1   Russian Leg Sweep
1   Snap Mare
1   Vertical Suplex
1   Wrist Lock
1   Backhand Slap (tb)
1   Drop Toe Hold
1   Elbow Drop
1   Foot Stomp
1   Hammerlock
1   Get Back in the Ring Shoot action tb
1   Don't Try This at Home (tb) Kristal: Broadcast Beauty
1   Carlito Says "That's Not Cool!"
1   Don't be a Douchebag!
1   You Missed Your Chance
3   Get the "F" Out!
1   Roll Out of the Way 1 manager intereferes
Backlash:
1   Follow the Buzzards
1   We're Here
1   A Foundation of Old School Wrestling
1   Getting Some Old School Payback!
3   Old School Beating
1   Old School Wrestling Match (tb)
1   Back to Basics
1   Unscrupulous S.O.B.
1   Grab the Ref
1   Chase Off Manager
1   For the Love of The Game
1   Go For the Cover! (tb)
1   The Road to Victory (tb)
1   Throw Into the Corner Turnbuckle (tb) Washington, DC
1   Turn Up the Heat World Wrestling Federation Heavyweight Title Belt (tb)
1   Your Reach Exceeds Your Grasp
1   Restricted Use in This Area (tb)
1   This Is Going to be an Old School Brawl!
1   Again With This Crap?!?!? (tb)
1   My Game, My Way
1   Old School Antics
1   Immune to Pain (tb) not in front of the kids
Backstage:
1   The Eater of Worlds
1   The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
1   The Lantern
1   Old School Shenanigans
Misc:
1   Bray Wyatt

So it is pretty straight forward to play but I know it is vulnerable to some other tactics opponent might try.  So, let me know what I can pack otherwise to make Bray a good play with this style of deck.

Edited for suggestions made.
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: The Hurricane on February 12, 2018, 03:50:05 AM
I would put in 3 Elbow to the Face. When you use your ability to reduce the damage of your opponent's cards it is BEFORE they are successful. So you can take a 11 Damage or less move and reduce it to 7D or less with your ability and get 2 fortitude out of it. I suggest maybe dropping Recovery and Recover again for 3 Elbow to the Face, Here Comes the Cavalry, and maybe 2 Kickin' It Old School instead?

Quote
Kickin' It Old School
Action
This card is -1F for every card in your Ring area with the words "old school" in the title.
Shuffle cards from your Ringside pile into your Arsenal equal to the number of cards in your Ring area with the words "old school" in the title
, and then remove either 3 Chain cards, 2 Heat cards, or 1 Volley card in your opponent's Ring area from the game.
F: 7      D: 0


Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: Dizzy on February 12, 2018, 08:50:27 AM
Maybe some Clumsy Opponent and Always Have a Plan B? Kristal Broadcast Beauty? McMahon intervention?
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: CRASHER on February 12, 2018, 09:06:37 AM
Maybe some Clumsy Opponent and Always Have a Plan B? Kristal Broadcast Beauty? McMahon intervention?

yeah very much some clumsy's in there

Also a not in front of the kids is Bray Wyatt GOLD as well...... Krystal is a good plan too!
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: krillin678 on February 12, 2018, 10:13:09 AM
I like clumsy, kickin' it, elbow, and Krystal.  Definitely need more efficient "recovery". Don't know about not in front of, should I pack a venue to make it work?  If so which one?

Also was wondering about volley this? (I think it is the name of it). Reverse action, fortitude number cards go to removed from play.
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: CRASHER on February 12, 2018, 10:39:57 AM
theres plenty of "venues for the sake of venues" that would be worth it.... Parts Unknown might be nifty for you since you are going b2b, also so could Dubuque or even the on one (since you are tied to backhand slap and one thing to say as your can't be reversed stoppers

you almost might consider Old School Cage as well as a stip since it's very good at stopping them from abusing cards like thrust knee lift and the like and shifting your own recovery to more unique-type cards as well (Krystal is still good since it doesn't get affected)

this deck has a decent idea, but I think the arsenal needs work...i don't see manager interferes either or am I losing my mind?
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: Dizzy on February 12, 2018, 11:18:08 AM
theres plenty of "venues for the sake of venues" that would be worth it.... Parts Unknown might be nifty for you since you are going b2b, also so could Dubuque or even the on one (since you are tied to backhand slap and one thing to say as your can't be reversed stoppers

you almost might consider Old School Cage as well as a stip since it's very good at stopping them from abusing cards like thrust knee lift and the like and shifting your own recovery to more unique-type cards as well (Krystal is still good since it doesn't get affected)

this deck has a decent idea, but I think the arsenal needs work...i don't see manager interferes either or am I losing my mind?

Venues? I'd say Rochester, Your Town, On One, Dubuque, Denville, Dallas or Baghdad.
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: CRASHER on February 12, 2018, 11:22:50 AM
Rochester and Your Town have been kicked in the nads virtually though

and I always find Baghdad always bites me in the ass, plus if he goes tb WWF title (which he should in b2b) he'd never get to use the effect from it....

isn't Bray blocked from Dallas/Denville?
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: dilbert505 on February 12, 2018, 11:32:12 AM
isn't Bray blocked from Dallas/Denville?

The Dallas/Denville pack restriction is on the Lantern, rather than on Bray, but given that you almost certainly want the Lantern, he might as well be.

One other thought for a random venue: Washington, DC. Pack a Shoot Action TB, tuck it on the bottom of your Arsenal with Signing Appearance if you draw into it, then use Washington to fish it back out. You could do the same with Revolution of the Mind, if you want to guarantee the early reversal, but I like the idea of the belt-protected maneuver, then DLBTB, then Shoot Action to get to 12 and open up Shoot Counter.
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: CRASHER on February 12, 2018, 11:46:41 AM
dilbert, you like getting DQ'ed the second you play that DLB don't ya? ;)
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: Dizzy on February 12, 2018, 11:47:07 AM
Rochester and Your Town have been kicked in the nads virtually though

and I always find Baghdad always bites me in the ass, plus if he goes tb WWF title (which he should in b2b) he'd never get to use the effect from it....

isn't Bray blocked from Dallas/Denville?

Sorry, I should've read Bray's cards in full, never built him before :/
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: rated SRH on February 12, 2018, 11:48:12 AM
I'd drop the B2B belt not like the opponent can prevent you from playing it.
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: Dizzy on February 12, 2018, 11:51:05 AM
Why no old School Raw? I'd cut an Old School Antics for it easily or heck use it as a mid-match reversal
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: dilbert505 on February 12, 2018, 12:00:56 PM
dilbert, you like getting DQ'ed the second you play that DLB don't ya? ;)

It may not come as much of a surprise that I haven’t built a B2B deck in years. (Or, for that matter, that I don’t have the opportunity to check Lackey at work.)
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: Dizzy on February 12, 2018, 12:49:43 PM
dilbert, you like getting DQ'ed the second you play that DLB don't ya? ;)

It may not come as much of a surprise that I haven’t built a B2B deck in years. (Or, for that matter, that I don’t have the opportunity to check Lackey at work.)

Zero judgments from moi, I'm actually toying with an Evan Borne B2B build at the moment
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: CRASHER on February 12, 2018, 01:23:19 PM
dilbert, you like getting DQ'ed the second you play that DLB don't ya? ;)

It may not come as much of a surprise that I haven’t built a B2B deck in years. (Or, for that matter, that I don’t have the opportunity to check Lackey at work.)

its OK, I had you confused with Scott H in testing when he kept getting DQed for the DLB in Braunnnnn  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: krillin678 on February 12, 2018, 01:31:15 PM
Sure, no Dallas, can understand that.  I do want to be careful as I need to have slots for we're here and the anti finlay one before b2b.

No manager interferes, yes I know.  Wanted to do some play testing before to find out if I could actually get to ten fort to play it otherwise it is a pitch card to the ability and having dummy cards for that is nice but not needed.

Old belts and signings, I am an old school player.  I consider these cards last as I never really had a chance to physically own them. :'(
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: CRASHER on February 12, 2018, 01:38:14 PM
the WWF title was thrown back and errata'ed, you can download it in last year's revisions :)

best thing you can do is try to make the deck in lackey so you have full access to the cards, the managers are must-pack no doubt!
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: krillin678 on February 12, 2018, 02:10:30 PM
I think lackey is the only way I am gonna play raw deal, just for fun. ;)

Also pretty sure I can't pack dlb with back to basics
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: CRASHER on February 12, 2018, 02:35:30 PM
you are correct, DLB is a no-no in b2b, there's a bunch of us who are around enough on lackey if you want to spar and try it out, back to bray-sics is interesting....
Title: Re: Bray Wyatt (Heel, Back to Basics) Suggestions Needed
Post by: krillin678 on February 14, 2018, 08:40:58 AM
Just for notes, I am also packing two! In the deck also.  Taking out some maneuvers for it seeing as I think it is already manuever heavy.