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Title: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 04, 2018, 07:11:23 AM
.....so shall we give this another spin???

I liked Drywall's suggestion of limiting this pool to the new VHS and a random virtual choice from each of the other sets as well and then randomly assigning superstars to people from that list (the "dice roll" feature in lackey is totally my best friend :) ) .....so before we start up, is that format cool with everyone? And who's interested....all I ask is if you say you will....PLEASE give it your best and true efforts to get your game in within the 10-day period (I'm going to try to give two weekends per round to give people their best chance to get their games in), so let's see how many are in before I need to create the deck pool......so be ye in or nay?

Signed up:
me
Brian
Mitch
dilbery
skudz
niiiiiiicccccckkkkk kkkkkkkkkk
Drywall
Shelan
LawnmowerMan
imc
Joker
MPT
tutoman
riotthebeast
rumpelstiltskin
(crap I forget Lou's TCO name, so Lou!)
Heldacarite

This tournament will be ran with the official TCO Discord server(https://discord.gg/AGF4wG8), results are to be posted in the "lackey-tournament" channel, pairings will still be kept on TCO and also pinned to the tournament channel in Discord.

Round 1:
imc vs Drywall
Lou vs tutoman
Brian vs lotjx
Me vs rumpel
skudz vs niiiiicccckkkkkkk
Helda vs matthardynotdie
Mitch def. riothebeast
Shelan (count out) def. John P
Dilbert vs Jokerfish
Lawnmower-bye

Round 2:
Brian vs tutoman
Me vs Drywall
Heldacarite vs Jokerfish
Mitch vs Shelan
Lawnmower Man vs niiiiccccckkkkk
imc2002 vs lotjx
Lou vs Rumpel
skudz vs matthardynotdie
John P vs RIOthebeast
Dilbert the bye

Round 3:
Round 3:
Mitch vs tutoman
niiiicccckkkkkk vs lotjx
Brian vs Jokerfish
me vs Lawnmower Man
Dilbert vs Matthardynotdie
skuds vs rumpel
Shelan vs Dizzy
Helda vs. Drywall
Lou vs John

Round 4:
Mitch vs niiiiccccckkkkkk
Brian vs Drywall
Helda vs tutoman
Lawnmower Man vs matthardynotdie
Lou vs lotjx
me vs Joker
Dilbert vs Shelan
skudz vs Dizzy
John P vs Rumpel
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: BigPimpin on January 04, 2018, 07:26:35 AM
I'll give it a shot.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 04, 2018, 07:31:25 AM
I'll give it a shot.

We can play it in Allentown again :p
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on January 04, 2018, 07:32:22 AM
I'm in
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: dilbert505 on January 04, 2018, 07:39:33 AM
Sure, why the hell not?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 04, 2018, 07:40:56 AM
I'm in, are you saying we get 2 decks?

God no....that would be crazy  :o

What I will do is when we close up the signups, I'll see how many we have, and then pick from a pool of the new VHS, and add decks randomly from all the virtual sets picking one (or two) if needed from each set, and then randomly assign them to folks.....I'll try to leave some extras for "Mulligan" options too....just in case....least in lackey "I don't have the cards" is not an issue :)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on January 04, 2018, 07:44:47 AM
I'm in
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on January 04, 2018, 07:52:54 AM
I know I said I was done......but you just keep pulling me back in. Count me in, life has finally settled down now for me
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: BigPimpin on January 04, 2018, 08:11:12 AM
I know I said I was done......but you just keep pulling me back in. Count me in, life has finally settled down now for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Shelan on January 04, 2018, 09:16:10 AM
Im in.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on January 05, 2018, 10:11:10 AM
Bumping in case others missed, but also to ask how long sign ups will be for?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: matthardynotdie on January 05, 2018, 10:14:37 AM
I'm in too.  :)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on January 05, 2018, 10:30:28 AM
Are we going to cap the number of slots?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: LawnMowerMan on January 05, 2018, 10:59:03 AM
Don't really care to be given a random superstar but I would like to play.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: imc2oo2 on January 05, 2018, 03:00:12 PM
yes please...in for real this time, promise.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Jokerfish on January 05, 2018, 04:37:49 PM
i'm in ( as long as we adhere to a schedule)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: MrPeoplesTeam on January 05, 2018, 04:51:11 PM
I'm in... I promise
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: tutoman on January 05, 2018, 05:31:11 PM
May as well. I'm in.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 05, 2018, 05:40:53 PM
we're at 13, I'd love to get to 16, do we want less rounds and a bigger cut or more rounds and a smaller cut??

and I'm learning about the "move your ass rule"....I was too willing to give people a chance to play last time, two weekends and DONE (easier for me since I'm usually home on Sundays and all)

right now we'd be at the 8 from vhs3, one from each other set and one from the other 2 holiday sets
that's only a pool of 18....I'll bump that to 24 and start on the list in a few....unless my chinese food gets here fast....hah
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: riothebeast on January 05, 2018, 09:52:28 PM
Ill join why not. Ill see if i can talk seph into it as well.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 05, 2018, 11:06:08 PM
I did the random pull for the group of superstars that we'll be picking from....should I reveal it now or wait till we have all the signups??? some top-quality decks in the field.....
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: dilbert505 on January 05, 2018, 11:26:04 PM
Can't speak for everyone else, but I'd like to see them.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on January 05, 2018, 11:40:15 PM
Yeah let's see them!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 05, 2018, 11:44:48 PM
Here was my process behind who got pulled from each set....V1 and V5 were MASSIVE and V2 and V6 were kinda small so instead of taking 2 from each I borrowed from the smaller sets and took from the bigger ones.....if I need to add more I can add one more from V1, V3, V4, V5, V7 and V8 just to give some more options....
now I'm not sure how I'm going to do the selection....the best idea I have so far is to pull someone else's good idea:

each person gets two of the pool picked at random, you can pick one of the two or Mulligan.....if you Mulligan what you get is what you get (now I know you might get
the Malenko's or the Sexy Beast's....but hey play it out and call it "deck builder's challenge" ), that seems to be the way I'm leaning....but number of sign ups will decide this....don't forget to be all signed and registered on Discord too!


V1: the Sexy Beast, Latino Cheat, Dean Malenko, Macho Man
V2: Sting
V3: Genetic Jackhammer, Nature Boy
V4:Natural Disasters, HBK tb
V5: David Otunga, Sheamus, New Nexus, Daniel Bryan
V6: Stinger
V7: Rhodes Bros, the Viper, Bray Wyatt
V8: Lionheart, Val Venis, Ken Shamrock
VHS1: Charlotte
VHS2: Rusev
VHS3: AJ, Drew, Jinder, Gallows and Anderson, Natalya, Bayley, The Best in the World, BRAUNNNNNNN
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: rumpelstiltskin on January 06, 2018, 01:04:23 AM
Self Declared MITB Champ wants in!! coz the last tournament i was auto-qualified via Bye...and the tournament was sadly ended there...
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: tutoman on January 06, 2018, 05:49:22 AM
In order to somewhat reduce the "oh eff i really have no idea how to build this thing" factor, i would like to advocate for a mulligan clause like some random lackey tournaments before, where a player gets a random superstar but may reject it for a second and final draw before superstars are revealed.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: MrPeoplesTeam on January 06, 2018, 07:01:37 AM
If Mitch gets Nature Boy again we riot
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 06, 2018, 07:04:59 AM
If Mitch gets Nature Boy again we riot

Funny I was thinking more if you get Jackhammer I'm going to be really pissed at whoever made the dice rolling feature in lackey..... ???
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: rated SRH on January 06, 2018, 08:44:07 AM
Latino Cheat is also an option......
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 06, 2018, 08:56:54 AM
Latino Cheat is also an option......

so in essence you're saying there's enough good decks from the pull to go around for EVERYONE.... fabulous :)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: rated SRH on January 06, 2018, 09:14:54 AM
Latino Cheat is also an option......

so in essence you're saying there's enough good decks from the pull to go around for EVERYONE.... fabulous :)

Sure.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on January 06, 2018, 09:16:21 AM
If I get Bayley I will automatically pick the other person just because I find her annoying in real life.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 06, 2018, 09:49:45 AM
I did some math and I added a few guys just to make my stuff easier:


V1: the Sexy Beast, Latino Cheat, Dean Malenko, Macho Man
V2: Sting
V3: Genetic Jackhammer, Nature Boy
V4:Natural Disasters, HBK tb
V5: David Otunga, Sheamus, New Nexus, Daniel Bryan
V6: Stinger
V7: Rhodes Bros, the Viper, Bray Wyatt
V8: Lionheart, Val Venis, Ken Shamrock
VHS1: Charlotte
VHS2: Rusev
VHS3: AJ, Drew, Jinder, Gallows and Anderson, Natalya, Bayley, The Best in the World, BRAUNNNNNNN
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 06, 2018, 10:29:10 AM
CMON TCO!!! one more for 16!!!!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 06, 2018, 12:20:57 PM
Also anyone who wants to make their rolls to see who they get, PM me (here or on Discord) and I'll make the rolls when I'm back tonight
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on January 06, 2018, 01:34:25 PM
Any thoughts on letting us disqualify a certain pick?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 06, 2018, 01:56:06 PM
Any thoughts on letting us disqualify a certain pick?

what I'm doing is rolling two options, you can pick A or B, but if you C you're stuck with him (right Mitch?)  :laugh:
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on January 06, 2018, 02:49:11 PM
I got a challenge for sure :)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 06, 2018, 09:51:47 PM
we're 11 down only 5 left to spin the wheel peeps!!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 07, 2018, 06:51:32 AM
hey, anyone out there who hasn't asked me to roll their decks for the tournament needs to get that done ASAP, I'm going to have to cut anyone from the event who doesn't by today so people can get to building their decks.....
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 07, 2018, 07:34:52 AM
Hey skudzzz.... Bayley is still available  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: lotjx on January 07, 2018, 08:04:59 AM
If there is still room I would like to join.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 07, 2018, 08:16:11 AM
Sure, I'll PM you your choices right now....I get the feeling someone won't answer my by today, and if not, we have 17....so...be....it ......
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: tutoman on January 07, 2018, 08:38:07 AM
Ah crap i didn't know we had to ask for the deck asignation. Sure, hit me up whenever you can.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: LawnMowerMan on January 07, 2018, 09:35:07 AM
Pm'd you crasher
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on January 07, 2018, 03:56:33 PM
Hey skudzzz.... Bayley is still available  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Sent PM please no!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 09, 2018, 10:11:09 PM
yayyy!! All ready at last!!!! So just to give an idea....reach out to your opponent, figure out a time that's good for y'all....and let's get this moving!!!! I'm going to set the end of round 1 for the 22nd of January (since some of us need build decks and stuff)....here's the first round....have fun y'all!!!


Me: Sexy Beast
Lou: Stinger
Brian: Phil 2.0
Mitch: Bray Wyatt
dilbert: New Nexus
skudz: Nature Boy
niiiiiiicccccckkkkk: BRAUUUNNNNN
Drywall: Sting
Shelan: Jackhammer
LawnmowerMan: Drew McIntyre
imc: AJ Styles
Joker: Lionheart
MPT: Macho man
tutoman: Natural Disasters
riothebeast: Good Brothers
rumpelstiltskin: the Viper
Heldacarite: Natalya
lotjx: Sheamus
matthardynotdie: Jinder Mahal

imc vs Drywall
Lou vs tutoman "Jersey Shore DQ"  :laugh:
Brian vs lotjx
Me vs rumpel
skudz vs niiiiicccckkkkkkk
Helda vs matthardynotdie
Mitch def. riothebeast
Shelan (count out) def. John P
Dilbert vs Jokerfish (via technical malfunctions  :laugh: )
Lawnmower-bye
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: NJDevil18 on January 10, 2018, 06:48:40 AM
Just an FYI Tuto... I am Lou.  I am still working on my deck, but should be ready by this weekend.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: MrPeoplesTeam on January 10, 2018, 10:21:57 AM
Who is Phil 2.0 and Good brothers
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: BigPimpin on January 10, 2018, 10:27:19 AM
Who is Phil 2.0 and Good brothers

Phil 2.0 = The Best Wrestler In The World
Good Bros = Gallows and Anderson
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: riothebeast on January 10, 2018, 12:03:11 PM
 Lol happens every time i play an event but my user name is rio the beast. No biggie just pointing it out. Refrence to a favorite video game character.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: LawnMowerMan on January 13, 2018, 03:34:07 PM
Jokerfish I messaged you about possibly playing in round 1.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: BigPimpin on January 14, 2018, 07:53:34 PM
My match is tentatively scheduled for around noon tomorrow if anyone would like to spectate.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: lotjx on January 16, 2018, 12:10:20 PM
I lost to big pimp, yesterday.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on January 16, 2018, 12:49:15 PM
I lost to big pimp, yesterday.

Already recorded that result in the Discord tournament channel.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Jokerfish on January 16, 2018, 04:33:20 PM
i ok with taking the win and not playing
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 19, 2018, 07:26:39 AM
How we doing guys??? We got till Monday (my time) or I gotta start dishing out losses and that would suck......
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on January 19, 2018, 07:46:34 AM
How we doing guys??? We got till Monday (my time) or I gotta start dishing out losses and that would suck......

My loss is only halfway finished.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on January 19, 2018, 02:23:35 PM
PM'ed my opponent again (Imc) to see when we could play. :)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on January 19, 2018, 05:35:15 PM
BRRRAAAAAAUUUUUUNNN NNN won by pinfall...barely... you'd think a match with 106 fortitude vs 22 would be a little more one sided. Just like in real life, Nature Boy kept cheating death
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on January 19, 2018, 05:41:25 PM
BRRRAAAAAAUUUUUUNNNNNN won by pinfall...barely... you'd think a match with 106 fortitude vs 22 would be a little more one sided. Just like in real life, Nature Boy kept cheating death

Coke powered Naitch not enough for Braun.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Dizzy on January 19, 2018, 06:12:33 PM
BRRRAAAAAAUUUUUUNNNNNN won by pinfall...barely... you'd think a match with 106 fortitude vs 22 would be a little more one sided. Just like in real life, Nature Boy kept cheating death

Coke powered Naitch not enough for Braun.

BRAUN was clearly a Space Mountain of a Man.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 19, 2018, 07:24:34 PM
All  I keep seeing is Brauuunnnn SCREAMING "I'M NOT DONE WITH YOU YET NATCH!!!!!!"  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 20, 2018, 07:37:38 PM
in a battle of "NO I WANNA BE LOWER IN FORT"....Jericho hits the Viper with 4 moves total and then wins by DTTAH via his own OSWM backfiring on him.... DRINK IT IN MAAAAANNNNN!!!!!

Hurry up the rest of you basitches!!!!!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 21, 2018, 06:37:33 PM
Round 2....BEGIN!!!!!! (hopefully Dilbert gets his PC done in time:


Round 2:
Brian vs tutoman
Me vs Drywall
Heldacarite vs Jokerfish
Mitch vs Shelan
Lawnmower Man vs niiiiccccckkkkk
imc2002 vs lotjx
Lou vs Rumpel
skudz vs matthardynotdie (count out)
John P vs RIOthebeast
Dilbert gets the bye (and a closer to home computer guy  :laugh: )

y'all got till Feb 5......do it for Big E!!!!!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: riothebeast on January 21, 2018, 09:40:31 PM
John p pm me to setup.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on January 26, 2018, 05:55:52 PM
Sting wins via pinfall and stuff
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Jokerfish on January 26, 2018, 06:13:22 PM
heldacarite pm me when you can play
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on January 26, 2018, 06:37:52 PM
Remember to report on Discord in the Tournament channel, I update the pinned schedules within minutes usually.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Jokerfish on January 26, 2018, 07:31:56 PM
how do i join that server without an invite?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on January 26, 2018, 07:51:27 PM
You got in just fine.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: lotjx on January 27, 2018, 08:27:08 AM
I IMed IMC a few days ago. No one answer. IM if you see this IMC.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on January 27, 2018, 11:53:36 AM
BRAAAAAAUUUUUNNNNNN wins via pinfall...barely
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on January 31, 2018, 08:41:26 PM
and we were doing SO GOOD....what's the holdup folks???
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Dizzy on February 01, 2018, 08:17:19 AM
and we were doing SO GOOD....what's the holdup folks???

If I woulda known there'd be this many ghosts perhaps I woulda given it the ol' college try.

Then again college sucked.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 01, 2018, 08:53:27 AM
and we were doing SO GOOD....what's the holdup folks???

If I woulda known there'd be this many ghosts perhaps I woulda given it the ol' college try.

Then again college sucked.

well if you're willing to take a first round loss and Mr dilbert is OK with playing you (in short order) I'd be OK with adding one more person.....I'll have to roll up a deck for you later but I'm cool with it!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Dizzy on February 01, 2018, 09:06:45 AM
Oh, I don't have a deck built for any of those peeps listed sadly. I can always wait until next time
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Dizzy on February 01, 2018, 10:08:37 AM
and we were doing SO GOOD....what's the holdup folks???

If I woulda known there'd be this many ghosts perhaps I woulda given it the ol' college try.

Then again college sucked.

well if you're willing to take a first round loss and Mr dilbert is OK with playing you (in short order) I'd be OK with adding one more person.....I'll have to roll up a deck for you later but I'm cool with it!

Roll me a deck and I'll try my best to get something thrown together. :)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: dilbert505 on February 01, 2018, 11:04:25 AM
I'm down for a game when you get your deck together, Diz. Let me know; I should be available this evening, maybe tomorrow, and Saturday. Sunday's probably out, because Super Bowl.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: BigPimpin on February 01, 2018, 01:24:05 PM
Tuto and I have had problems connecting.  Still hoping to get the game in before Monday.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: lotjx on February 01, 2018, 02:27:27 PM
I have not heard from IMC at all.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on February 01, 2018, 02:56:11 PM
I have not heard from IMC at all.

I heard back from him/her once and then nothing; I hope everything is okay.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Dizzy on February 01, 2018, 02:57:29 PM
I'm down for a game when you get your deck together, Diz. Let me know; I should be available this evening, maybe tomorrow, and Saturday. Sunday's probably out, because Super Bowl.

Tomorrow (Friday) would be best for moi, if that's doable. I still have to cobble this dang thing together. Pray for me.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: dilbert505 on February 01, 2018, 08:44:24 PM
I'm down for a game when you get your deck together, Diz. Let me know; I should be available this evening, maybe tomorrow, and Saturday. Sunday's probably out, because Super Bowl.

Tomorrow (Friday) would be best for moi, if that's doable. I still have to cobble this dang thing together. Pray for me.

Tomorrow should be OK, relatively late (in the Eastern TZ) at least. Are you on Discord? If so, I'll hit you up there when I'm available. Otherwise, I can PM you.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Dizzy on February 02, 2018, 10:55:16 AM
I'm down for a game when you get your deck together, Diz. Let me know; I should be available this evening, maybe tomorrow, and Saturday. Sunday's probably out, because Super Bowl.

Tomorrow (Friday) would be best for moi, if that's doable. I still have to cobble this dang thing together. Pray for me.

Tomorrow should be OK, relatively late (in the Eastern TZ) at least. Are you on Discord? If so, I'll hit you up there when I'm available. Otherwise, I can PM you.

PM me, Dilberto.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 04, 2018, 05:26:49 PM
I'm expecting to be hearing some results and soon people.......
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Dizzy on February 04, 2018, 05:55:26 PM
I'm expecting to be hearing some results and soon people.......

I apologize, life got cray for a few days.

Cray is idiot speak for "totally not fun" if you're unaware.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Dizzy on February 04, 2018, 05:57:04 PM
Just Pm'ed Dilbert to see if we can play tonight. When is the deadline for this round?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on February 04, 2018, 06:18:43 PM
Tomorrow February 5th.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Dizzy on February 04, 2018, 06:25:32 PM
Tomorrow February 5th.

Thank you Mitch.

Does that mean we can potentially play tomorrow or does that mean end of day today?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 04, 2018, 07:09:54 PM
Does that mean we can potentially play tomorrow or does that mean end of day today?

Since you guys decided to do this on super short notice, if you can do it tomorrow.....go for it

the rest of y'all better stop watching the Super Bore and get on this :p
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: dilbert505 on February 04, 2018, 09:12:05 PM
Bore? I think not; even if you hated both teams, that was a hell of a game. The 32nd pick of the draft's going to be sweet music to Cowflop fans' ears, I can hear it now.

Anyway, Dizzy and I missed each other on Friday, and tonight I was kind of booked watching my boys become World F****** Champions. If we can match up later tonight, we'll do that; otherwise we'll try to knock this out tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: lotjx on February 05, 2018, 06:45:57 AM
I have no idea what the deal is with ICM. I guess give us both a lose or draw.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 05, 2018, 07:20:44 AM
I have no idea what the deal is with ICM. I guess give us both a lose or draw.

I tend to be lenient to the one who makes more of an effort to get their game in....when I see on here or discord that you made the effort and I don't hear a peep from the other person I give the one who tried the benefit of the doubt and the win, its not your fault the other guy didn't come to the table....and when you no-show two rounds, I drop that person....so imc is out of the event (again)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 06, 2018, 06:52:09 AM
Round 3 pairings will be tomorrow....I have to play investigative reporter today and then make a decision....awesome ly fabulous.....you have two weeks to play a goddamn game and you wait till the DAY AFTER THE DEADLINE to ask about it? .....lovely....I thought I didn't have to deal with the 9 year olds until AFTER 5pm.......
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: riothebeast on February 06, 2018, 09:12:34 AM
I dropped. I have no time to track down people. It makes it feel more like a chore than anything. I wont enter in the future and just stick to random games when i can.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: tutoman on February 06, 2018, 06:18:01 PM
In a very...very close match, the Natural Disasters finally splashed their competition.

Natural Disasters def. The Best In The World via pinfall
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 06, 2018, 10:07:11 PM
Hey look.....midnight!!!!

Round 3:
Helda vs. Drywall
Mitch vs tutoman
niiiicccckkkkkk vs lotjx
Lou vs John
Brian vs Jokerfish
me vs Lawnmower Man
Dilbert vs Matthardynotdie
Shelan vs Dizzy
skuds vs rumpel

Calendar says two weekends is over as of Feb 19...let's move this along peoples!!!!


Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on February 08, 2018, 07:35:24 AM
Rumpel I am EST time zone let me know what you can do.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: lotjx on February 13, 2018, 07:53:14 PM
I tried getting a hold of Nick this weekend and did not get a response.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Jokerfish on February 13, 2018, 08:10:00 PM
brian pinned me on Saturday
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on February 13, 2018, 09:43:47 PM
brian pinned me on Saturday


Rounds are tracked in the Discord channel which I keep updated in the Pins.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on February 14, 2018, 06:57:20 AM
Been trying to get in touch with Rumpel for 10 days, I have to go out of town if he doesn't post please give him a forfeit or if he does give us a draw.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 14, 2018, 07:09:48 AM
Been trying to get in touch with Rumpel for 10 days, I have to go out of town if he doesn't post please give him a forfeit or if he does give us a draw.

I just shot him a msg on the Facebooks....hopefu lly he sees it soon!

update...check your PM....and hopefully you guys can meet up around 1 EST
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on February 14, 2018, 08:33:21 AM
Been trying to get in touch with Rumpel for 10 days, I have to go out of town if he doesn't post please give him a forfeit or if he does give us a draw.

I just shot him a msg on the Facebooks....hopefu lly he sees it soon!

update...check your PM....and hopefully you guys can meet up around 1 EST

I can't I am leaving at 11:30 EST just give us a draw.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: MrPeoplesTeam on February 16, 2018, 12:58:32 AM
What is Lous name on TCO?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 16, 2018, 10:00:37 AM
NJDevil18, or something like that.....no luck with the Facebooks?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on February 16, 2018, 10:24:45 AM
Who is Heldacrite?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 16, 2018, 10:28:22 AM
Who is Heldacrite?

I think he's on Discord more
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on February 16, 2018, 12:04:47 PM
What's the link? I forgot
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: dilbert505 on February 16, 2018, 12:05:51 PM
What's the link? I forgot

It's in the first post of this thread.

https://discord.gg/AGF4wG8

It's also in this post, now.  ;)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 18, 2018, 02:24:59 PM
Three more to go...move your asses people!!!! :p
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on February 18, 2018, 10:59:16 PM
Gonna try, we've been in contact but with my car accident, cleaning and packing at my current house, and moving stuff to the new house...it may be a long shot
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 19, 2018, 12:19:32 PM
Gonna try, we've been in contact but with my car accident, cleaning and packing at my current house, and moving stuff to the new house...it may be a long shot

well.....wow.....fa ir enough.....kinda hard to fault you there!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: MrPeoplesTeam on February 19, 2018, 03:24:44 PM
Just not having any luck getting a good time going   :(
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 19, 2018, 09:28:26 PM
THREE no-contests last round....I do NOT want that again.....

Round 4:
Mitch vs niiiiccccckkkkkk
Brian vs Drywall
Helda vs tutoman
Lawnmower Man vs matthardynotdie
Lou vs lotjx
me vs Joker
Dilbert vs Shelan
skudz vs Dizzy
John P vs Rumpel

March 5th people, just find a way.......
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Dizzy on February 20, 2018, 02:19:33 PM
Dizzy (Val Venis) pins Skudz (The Nature Boy)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: lotjx on February 20, 2018, 07:16:25 PM
I am waiting for Lou to contact me since no one seems to know what it TCO name is.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 20, 2018, 07:21:30 PM
NJDevil18....someth ing like that....
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on February 20, 2018, 07:24:56 PM
NJDevil18....something like that....

It is...he posted on page 2 of this thread
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 28, 2018, 06:52:21 AM
It's Wednesday of Week 2 people....get it moving dammit!!!!!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: tutoman on February 28, 2018, 02:26:15 PM
Natalya kicked the everliving crap out of Natural Disasters.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on February 28, 2018, 02:51:24 PM
My opponent can only play nights and weekends (which I understand). I'm going to try and connect with him asap
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on February 28, 2018, 03:06:21 PM
Gonna try in the next couple of nights. Mitch is pretty open...but life has gotten in my way with everything this last 1 1/2 weeks
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on February 28, 2018, 04:47:00 PM
Gonna try in the next couple of nights. Mitch is pretty open...but life has gotten in my way with everything this last 1 1/2 weeks

This is the famous "Mitch horseshoe" at work isn't it?? He knows this is a no-win matchup, so his only hope is to torpedo your schedule??  :laugh:
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on February 28, 2018, 07:10:19 PM
Gonna try in the next couple of nights. Mitch is pretty open...but life has gotten in my way with everything this last 1 1/2 weeks

This is the famous "Mitch horseshoe" at work isn't it?? He knows this is a no-win matchup, so his only hope is to torpedo your schedule??  :laugh:

I am pretty well open anytime that Nick isn't :)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: lotjx on March 04, 2018, 07:27:56 PM
I got the win.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: BigPimpin on March 05, 2018, 05:39:44 AM
I'm giving Drywall the win, as I won't be able to make it online to play him today (last day of deadline).  Sorry dude, if I can get online another time, let's just play it out for fun.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: matthardynotdie on March 05, 2018, 08:15:42 AM
I'm giving Drywall the win, as I won't be able to make it online to play him today (last day of deadline).  Sorry dude, if I can get online another time, let's just play it out for fun.

Glad to see some friendly rounds going on. #ForTheLoveOfTheGame  :)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 05, 2018, 08:25:45 AM
I'm giving Drywall the win, as I won't be able to make it online to play him today (last day of deadline).  Sorry dude, if I can get online another time, let's just play it out for fun.

That's mighty big of you, pimpin. That couldn't have been easy.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 05, 2018, 08:52:20 PM
Round 5:
niccckkkk vs Drywall
Helda vs Mitch
matthardynotdie vs Tutoman
Brian vs Lawnmower man
Jokerfish vs lotjx
me vs Shelan
Lou vs Dizzy
Dilbert vs Rumpel
skudz vs John P

March 19 is the cut-off.....get 'em moving folks!!!

and east coasters....use this damn snowstorm Wednesday to play your frakking games :p
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: BigPimpin on March 06, 2018, 08:35:43 AM
Round 5:
niccckkkk vs Drywall
Helda vs Mitch
matthardynotdie vs Tutoman
Brian vs Lawnmower man
Jokerfish vs lotjx
me vs Shelan
Lou vs Dizzy
Dilbert vs Rumpel
skudz vs John P

March 19 is the cut-off.....get 'em moving folks!!!

and east coasters....use this damn snowstorm Wednesday to play your frakking games :p

Who are you kidding?  They're making me stay overnight in the city.  :p
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 06, 2018, 09:50:12 AM
Who are you kidding?  They're making me stay overnight in the city.  :p

Sounds like the PERFECT excuse to get that game in tonight mister  8)
just because Mister Brooks walked out on the WWE don't mean you should be walking out on this tournament :)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: BigPimpin on March 06, 2018, 12:08:14 PM
Who are you kidding?  They're making me stay overnight in the city.  :p

Sounds like the PERFECT excuse to get that game in tonight mister  8)
just because Mister Brooks walked out on the WWE don't mean you should be walking out on this tournament :)

I didn't even get a Z-pack for this crap.  :p
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 12, 2018, 09:32:36 AM
Halfway through the round.....and half the games played...can we live the dream and have all the games resolved before the deadline??

Also time to think about the next event, I was thinking a straight-up format, but some people were talking the "Franken-Lackey" style of random SS and backstage with a different backlash and a third arsenal..... I'm all for opinions and thoughts folks?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Jokerfish on March 12, 2018, 09:40:52 AM
it might be fun to play best of the worst.
everyone who enters picks a bad superstar. once everyone enters they are assigned on of the pool at random. this way if someone picks someone who isn't really bad they can't be assured they will get them and give an advantage to a competitor.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on March 12, 2018, 10:33:28 AM
Drywall, are you still on discord? Message me on there is you can to set up our match
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 12, 2018, 11:08:54 AM
it might be fun to play best of the worst.
everyone who enters picks a bad superstar. once everyone enters they are assigned on of the pool at random. this way if someone picks someone who isn't really bad they can't be assured they will get them and give an advantage to a competitor.

hrrrrmmm, this is interesting.... a "deck builder's challenge" event

and don't be an assist and pick someone like Braun either folks :D
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on March 12, 2018, 12:17:09 PM
it might be fun to play best of the worst.
everyone who enters picks a bad superstar. once everyone enters they are assigned on of the pool at random. this way if someone picks someone who isn't really bad they can't be assured they will get them and give an advantage to a competitor.

hrrrrmmm, this is interesting.... a "deck builder's challenge" event

and don't be an assist and pick someone like Braun either folks :D

Brauns not that great...come on now
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on March 12, 2018, 12:20:15 PM
BUT in all honesty that sounds like fun and would help some realize how much better some of the so called bad superstars are. When the Brood released, I thought they were possibly the worst, and I'm 2-0 with mine and I believe Mitch has a build as well that does pretty well...sometimes all it takes is for someone to actually sit down and build the superstar instead of just looking at their set and moving on
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: dilbert505 on March 12, 2018, 12:29:54 PM
My preference would be Franken-Lackey, since let's be honest, I can already build a bad deck. I don't need to be assigned a bad superstar to do it with.  :-\

That said, maybe Tourney 13 can be one of the two formats, and Tourney 14 the other?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 12, 2018, 02:50:29 PM
Brauns not that great...come on now

that's why Mitch's magic horseshoe had to resort to hiding your power cord, right?? :)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 12, 2018, 02:59:58 PM
Drywall, are you still on discord? Message me on there is you can to set up our match

I'll try my absolute best to hop on today, been sick as a dog the past week. I apologize for the hold-up.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on March 14, 2018, 06:42:35 PM
Ill try to be on the next few nights...if you aren't feeling well, dont worry, we can try and match up as we still have a few more days
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: BigPimpin on March 15, 2018, 05:18:23 AM
On format for next time - I think Franken-Lackey is simpler so we can get the next tournament moving and done pre-ACMT (which is usually when revisions come out).  I would like to try the "bad" deck format, but how can we agree upon who the "bad" superstars are?  I guess we'd have to start with:

1) No Legends
2) No Tag Teams or Stables
3) Very few females/divas

All of those groups get good perks that can take them out of "bad" status. 

Once we get to that point, how do we decide on which single male superstar(s) are bad vs. which ones are good?  There are a couple of obvious ones (poor Funaki), but by and large we probably need a pool of 20-30, and I'm not sure there are enough "bad" superstars to support that tournament.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 08:19:50 AM
"Bad" Superstars Tournament Suggestons:

1.) Brodus Clay
2.) Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake
3.) Buh-Buh Ray Dudley
4.) Chris Benoit
5.) Chyna Doll
5.) Darren Young
6.) David Otunga
7.) Dean Malenko
8.) Demolition
9.) D-Von Dudley
10.) Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
11.) DX
12.) Eric Rowan
13.) Evan Bourne
14.) Funaki
15.) Goldust
16.) Hacksaw Jim Duggan
17.) Heath Slater
18.) Hollywood Hulk Hogan (Non Throwback)
19.) Irwin R. Schyster
20.) Jack Swagger
21.) Jeff Hardy
22.) Jeff Jarrett
23.) Jerry Lawler
24.) John Morrison
25.) Justin Gabriel
26.) Kaientai
27.) Kevin Nash
28.) Lance Storm
29.) Mae Young
30.) Maryse
31.) MNM
32.) MVP
33.) Norman Smiley
34.) Paige
35.) Prime Time Players
36.) Raven
37.) Raw Guest Host
38.) Rene Dupree
39.) Ric Flair
40.) R-Truth
41.) Sami Zayn
42.) Santino Marella
43.) Scott Hall
44.) Sheamus
45.) Sin Cara
46.) Skip Sheffield
47.) Stevie Richards
48.) Team Hell No
49.) The Corre
50.) The Dangerous Alliance
51.) The Heat Seekers
52.) The King of Kings (Throwback)
53.) The Legacy
54.) The Miz
55.) The Rhodes Brothers
56.) The Shield
57.) The Steiner Brothers
58.) Titus O'Neil
59.) Too Cool
60.) Viscera
61.) Vladmir Kozlov
62.) Xavier Woods
63.) Yokozuna

There's more than a few questionable choices in there (depending on who you are). Many of these guys aren't "bad" per se, just many I never hear or read about people building or playing; others seem to be right on the cusp of being good...many seem to be missing "something".

There's obviously room here to cut half or so, thoughts?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: BigPimpin on March 15, 2018, 08:36:00 AM
See that's a problem though - "not played" does not equal "not good".  On a quick look, DTRJ would steamroll that field.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 15, 2018, 08:38:02 AM
"Bad" Superstars Tournament Suggestons:

1.) Brodus Clay
2.) Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake
3.) Buh-Buh Ray Dudley
4.) Chris Benoit
5.) Chyna Doll
5.) Darren Young
6.) David Otunga
7.) Dean Malenko
8.) Demolition
9.) D-Von Dudley
10.) Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
11.) DX

12.) Eric Rowan
13.) Evan Bourne
14.) Funaki
15.) Goldust
16.) Hacksaw Jim Duggan
17.) Heath Slater
18.) Hollywood Hulk Hogan (Non Throwback)
19.) Irwin R. Schyster
20.) Jack Swagger
21.) Jeff Hardy
22.) Jeff Jarrett
23.) Jerry Lawler
24.) John Morrison
25.) Justin Gabriel
26.) Kaientai
27.) Kevin Nash
28.) Lance Storm
29.) Mae Young
30.) Maryse
31.) MNM
32.) MVP

I wiped out a few people from here and I'll say why:

MVP = Free Fort and then switch to a control deck, VERY good...big pain in the ass to deal with
John Morrison = won two pods in Indy last year and two-time nXt Format winner in Gen Con as well
Heath Slater = MASSIVELY underrated, but I can put him back....he'd be an odds-on top guy though
D-X = borderliner overpowered and maybe up for revision talk
"Movie Dwayne" = see D-X
Chyna Doll = yeah Dynamic sucks, but she gets all the nasty D-X guys' reversals....I'd say maybe sub him....HER....it? .....for Lex Luger
Benoit = has some nasty cards....but his real life actions may make people uncomfortable playing for or against him.... maybe make the Radicalz?



Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 15, 2018, 08:38:36 AM
See that's a problem though - "not played" does not equal "not good".  On a quick look, DTRJ would steamroll that field.

D-X and Chyna 2.0 would be up there too
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on March 15, 2018, 08:42:53 AM
I wouldn't include these:
John Morrison(Really good, recovers forever and gets free fortitude)
The Legacy(Their new backstage makes them pretty awesome)
Sheamus(no hybrids ever is pretty solid)
Chyna Doll(She is in process of being nerfed last I looked, since no one wants to deal with Chyna's press slam into Precision Haymaker 1st turn)
Dwayne/DX are both pretty good in general
Xavier Woods(A lot better than you would think, Banned + his ability+ NXT to WWE is a free 2 recovery anytime something is reversed)



Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 09:06:54 AM
I wouldn't include these:
John Morrison(Really good, recovers forever and gets free fortitude)
The Legacy(Their new backstage makes them pretty awesome)
Sheamus(no hybrids ever is pretty solid)
Chyna Doll(She is in process of being nerfed last I looked, since no one wants to deal with Chyna's press slam into Precision Haymaker 1st turn)
Dwayne/DX are both pretty good in general
Xavier Woods(A lot better than you would think, Banned + his ability+ NXT to WWE is a free 2 recovery anytime something is reversed)

Excellent points made; as I mentioned there's room to cut that down by half easily.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 09:09:54 AM
"Bad" Superstars Tournament Suggestons:

1.) Brodus Clay
2.) Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake
3.) Buh-Buh Ray Dudley
5.) Darren Young
6.) David Otunga
7.) Dean Malenko
8.) Demolition
9.) D-Von Dudley
12.) Eric Rowan
13.) Evan Bourne
14.) Funaki
15.) Goldust
16.) Hacksaw Jim Duggan
18.) Hollywood Hulk Hogan (Non Throwback)
19.) Irwin R. Schyster
20.) Jack Swagger
21.) Jeff Hardy
22.) Jeff Jarrett
23.) Jerry Lawler
25.) Justin Gabriel
26.) Kaientai
27.) Kevin Nash
28.) Lance Storm
29.) Mae Young
30.) Maryse
31.) MNM
33.) Norman Smiley
34.) Paige
35.) Prime Time Players
36.) Raven
37.) Raw Guest Host
38.) Rene Dupree
39.) Ric Flair
40.) R-Truth
41.) Sami Zayn
42.) Santino Marella
43.) Scott Hall
45.) Sin Cara
46.) Skip Sheffield
47.) Stevie Richards
48.) Team Hell No
49.) The Corre
50.) The Dangerous Alliance
51.) The Heat Seekers
52.) The King of Kings (Throwback)
54.) The Miz
55.) The Rhodes Brothers
56.) The Shield
57.) The Steiner Brothers
58.) Titus O'Neil
59.) Too Cool
60.) Viscera
61.) Vladmir Kozlov
63.) Yokozuna

Any more omissions? We have plenty more to cut. I'm still on the fence with Heath Slater.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 15, 2018, 09:10:21 AM
the bastard added more I see :p

33.) Norman Smiley
34.) Paige
35.) Prime Time Players
36.) Raven
37.) Raw Guest Host
38.) Rene Dupree
39.) Ric Flair
40.) R-Truth
41.) Sami Zayn
42.) Santino Marella
43.) Scott Hall
44.) Sheamus
45.) Sin Cara
46.) Skip Sheffield
47.) Stevie Richards
48.) Team Hell No
49.) The Corre
50.) The Dangerous Alliance
51.) The Heat Seekers
52.) The King of Kings (Throwback)
53.) The Legacy
54.) The Miz
55.) The Rhodes Brothers
56.) The Shield

57.) The Steiner Brothers
58.) Titus O'Neil
59.) Too Cool
60.) Viscera
61.) Vladmir Kozlov
62.) Xavier Woods
63.) Yokozuna

Yeah Paige is a hand-killing beast....plus a pain in the ass in the lackey enviornment
Any version of Flair....ummm ....noooo, never in the "bad" category.....
Sheamus is a Mean Gene wet dream
There's a reason those new heel/cheater cards have "can not be packed by the Heat Seekers" on them....
Legacy is wayyy better than you think
Miz can basically re-start the game twice with the Trash Talking/Nowinski package
Rhodes Bros = Cody cards....Cody cards are GOOD
The Shield's "benefit off redwall" ability is awesome...yeah blindsides suck but you don't build around that
and Xavier is another "good luck killing me" deck.....
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 09:18:19 AM
Okay so we have:

"Bad" Superstars Tournament Suggestons:

1.) Brodus Clay
2.) Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake
3.) Buh-Buh Ray Dudley
5.) Darren Young
6.) David Otunga
7.) Dean Malenko
8.) Demolition
9.) D-Von Dudley
12.) Eric Rowan
13.) Evan Bourne
14.) Funaki
15.) Goldust
16.) Hacksaw Jim Duggan
18.) Hollywood Hulk Hogan (Non Throwback)
19.) Irwin R. Schyster
20.) Jack Swagger
21.) Jeff Hardy
22.) Jeff Jarrett
23.) Jerry Lawler
25.) Justin Gabriel
26.) Kaientai
27.) Kevin Nash
28.) Lance Storm
29.) Mae Young
30.) Maryse
31.) MNM
33.) Norman Smiley
35.) Prime Time Players
36.) Raven
37.) Raw Guest Host
38.) Rene Dupree
40.) R-Truth
41.) Sami Zayn
42.) Santino Marella
43.) Scott Hall
45.) Sin Cara
46.) Skip Sheffield
47.) Stevie Richards
48.) Team Hell No
49.) The Corre
50.) The Dangerous Alliance
52.) The King of Kings (Throwback)
57.) The Steiner Brothers
58.) Titus O'Neil
59.) Too Cool
60.) Viscera
61.) Vladmir Kozlov
63.) Yokozuna

This cuts it do about 47, let's knock 17 more off if possible.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on March 15, 2018, 09:23:51 AM
Jeff Hardy is pretty good.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 15, 2018, 09:25:21 AM
you could kill off Raw Guest Host too....but I like having  a bigger pool
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 09:27:19 AM
you could kill off Raw Guest Host too....but I like having  a bigger pool

What's the "magic number" in your opinion? And are there superstars that should be added to the list?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: dilbert505 on March 15, 2018, 09:30:05 AM
Let me see if I can make it worse; I have some names I never see played that don't seem like they fit in the "too broken to build" category. I also wouldn't mind seeing the list larger, rather than shorter, so we have a secondary pool for if we want to run this type of tourney a second time, but feel free to go either way there.

Johnny Nitro
Chris Masters
Billy & Chuck
Festus
Eugene
Lex Luger
Heidenreich
Michael Tarver
Kenny
Mikey
The Godfather
Nikolai Volkoff
The Rockers

Eugene's in the list to see if I can make CRASHER explode. That's not a legitimate suggestion.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 15, 2018, 09:31:45 AM
It depends on the number of entrants I would think, but I do like 2-3 per person

I'd add Roddy Piper to the list...he's garbage now that he's tied horribly to b2b

Dilbert's list is good minus Eugene and Masters
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: dilbert505 on March 15, 2018, 09:36:04 AM
It depends on the number of entrants I would think, but I do like 2-3 per person

I'd add Roddy Piper to the list...he's garbage now that he's tied horribly to b2b

Dilbert's list is good minus Eugene and Masters

Alas, you didn't react as violently to Eugene being there as I had hoped. Yeah, that one was a joke.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 15, 2018, 09:36:57 AM
Alas, you didn't react as violently to Eugene being there as I had hoped. Yeah, that one was a joke.

I was too busy curtailing my rage about how BAD Piper is now :p
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 09:40:08 AM
Okay so we have:

"Bad" Superstars Tournament Suggestons:

Billy & Chuck
Brodus Clay
Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake
Buh-Buh Ray Dudley
Darren Young
David Otunga
Dean Malenko
Demolition
D-Von Dudley
Eric Rowan
Evan Bourne
Festus
Funaki
Goldust
Hacksaw Jim Duggan
Heidenreich
Hollywood Hulk Hogan (Non Throwback)
Irwin R. Schyster
Jack Swagger
Jeff Hardy
Jerry Lawler
Johnny Nitro
Justin Gabriel
Kaientai
Kenny
Kevin Nash
Lance Storm
Lex Luger (Really?)
Mae Young
Maryse
Michael Tarver
Mikey
MNM
Nikolai Volkoff
Norman Smiley
Prime Time Players
Raven
Rene Dupree
Rowdy Roddy Piper
R-Truth
Sami Zayn
Santino Marella
Scott Hall
Sin Cara
Skip Sheffield
Stevie Richards
Team Hell No
The Corre
The Dangerous Alliance
The Godfather (Really?)
The King of Kings (Throwback)
The Rockers
The Steiner Brothers
Titus O'Neil
Too Cool
Viscera
Vladmir Kozlov
Yokozuna

The two bolded ones suprise me so far.

What about adding Bam Bam Bigelow?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 15, 2018, 09:44:54 AM
oh crap...I didn't see Godfather...get his ass off of there

and Lex is a weird deck now....I seem to have issues with him puckering out
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 09:48:31 AM
oh crap...I didn't see Godfather...get his ass off of there

and Lex is a weird deck now....I seem to have issues with him puckering out

So keep Lex or remove Lex? And do we add Bigelow?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 15, 2018, 09:55:42 AM
Keep Lex

hrrrmmm....yeah.... add bam bam to the hall of not good
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 10:08:12 AM
Okay so we have:

"Bad" Superstars Tournament Suggestons:

Bam Bam Bigelow
Billy & Chuck
Brodus Clay
Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake
Buh-Buh Ray Dudley
Darren Young
David Otunga
Dean Malenko
Demolition
D-Von Dudley
Eric Rowan
Evan Bourne
Festus
Funaki
Goldust
Hacksaw Jim Duggan
Heidenreich
Hollywood Hulk Hogan (Non Throwback)
Irwin R. Schyster
Jack Swagger
Jeff Hardy
Jerry Lawler
Johnny Nitro
Justin Gabriel
Kaientai
Kenny
Kevin Nash
Lance Storm
Lex Luger
Mae Young
Maryse
Michael Tarver
Mikey
MNM
Nikolai Volkoff
Norman Smiley
Prime Time Players
Raven
Rene Dupree
Rowdy Roddy Piper
R-Truth
Sami Zayn
Santino Marella
Scott Hall
Sin Cara
Skip Sheffield
Stevie Richards
Team Hell No
The Corre
The Dangerous Alliance
The King of Kings (Throwback)
The Rockers
The Steiner Brothers
Titus O'Neil
Too Cool
Viscera
Vladmir Kozlov
Yokozuna
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: BigPimpin on March 15, 2018, 11:09:21 AM
I'd scrap all of the following from this list:

Billy & Chuck
Hogan (non-TB)
Jeff Hardy
Johnny Nitro
Kaientai
Kevin Nash
MNM
Too Cool
Viscera
The Corre

Also, while I agree she belongs on the list, playing on Lackey as or against Mae Young is going to be miserable. 
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on March 15, 2018, 11:11:20 AM
I'd scrap all of the following from this list:

Billy & Chuck
Hogan (non-TB)
Jeff Hardy
Johnny Nitro
Kaientai
Kevin Nash
MNM
Too Cool
Viscera
The Corre

Also, while I agree she belongs on the list, playing on Lackey as or against Mae Young is going to be miserable. 

I was secretly totally hoping to play Mae :)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 11:15:15 AM
I'd scrap all of the following from this list:

Billy & Chuck
Hogan (non-TB)
Jeff Hardy
Johnny Nitro
Kaientai
Kevin Nash
MNM
Too Cool
Viscera
The Corre

Also, while I agree she belongs on the list, playing on Lackey as or against Mae Young is going to be miserable.

Explain what you mean in regards to Mae Young...I'm slow so be gentle.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 15, 2018, 11:15:41 AM
yeah it was either Mae or Moolah I commented on in testing "they're good enough for friendly games now, but if you play them against your friends you won't have any friends anymore"  :laugh: :laugh:

I'd consider adding 8th Wonder tb too
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 11:20:19 AM
yeah it was either Mae or Moolah I commented on in testing "they're good enough for friendly games now, but if you play them against your friends you won't have any friends anymore"  :laugh: :laugh:

I'd consider adding 8th Wonder tb too

I still don't get it.

8th and Andre or just 8th?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: dilbert505 on March 15, 2018, 11:27:35 AM
yeah it was either Mae or Moolah I commented on in testing "they're good enough for friendly games now, but if you play them against your friends you won't have any friends anymore"  :laugh: :laugh:

I still don't get it.


Mae Young
Starting Hand Size: 0     Superstar Value: 0
Superstar Ability: You cannot play maneuvers of 3D or greater. Your Arsenal may only contain 45 cards. Your cards titled Puppies! Puppies! are Set-up cards, -10F, and read as "Shuffle up to 5 cards from your Ringside pile into your Arsenal, draw 2 cards, your opponent overturns 2 cards, and end your turn."
PRO

She's a Diva-saurus!
Backstage Card
When packing this card, you can pack cards as if you are a Diva, but you are not a Diva.
Your You're as Graceful as a Cow on Ice cards are not Active and can be played as if you have fewer cards in hand; and your opponent cannot prevent you from playing Puppies! Puppies!.
During your turn, you may hide this card and then search your Arsenal and Ringside for The Older the Berry..., reveal it, put it in your hand, and shuffle.
Unique     RMS logo
V7

Wrestling Over 9 Decades
Backstage Card
When packing this card, you can pack up to 9 Puppies! Puppies! cards in your Backstage Area; after all Pre-match have been resolved, shuffle those cards into your Arsenal and draw # cards (where # is equal to 9 minus the number of cards in your hand).
When you have 5+ lower Fortitude, your opponent must discard 2 cards in order to reverse your Puppies! Puppies! from hand or Backlash; when you have 10+ lower Fortitude, cards with that title are Multi.
Unique     RMS logo

Give Yourself a Hand!
Mid-match Action + Action
Cannot be reversed and cannot be blanked.
Your opponent overturns cards equal to double the number of Puppies! Puppies! in your Ring, then shuffle all your Puppies! Puppies! cards in your Ring and Ringside into your Arsenal and draw up to 2 cards.
ACE:  During your turn when this card is in your Ring or Ringside, you may remove 2 Puppies! Puppies! cards in your Ring and/or Ringside from the game, then put this card in your Backlash.  This effect cannot be reversed.
F: 0     D: 0     Unique     Multi
V1

Mae Young's Slap
Trademark Finisher
Can only be reversed by Step Aside.
When you successfully play Puppies! Puppies! and this card is in your Ring or Ringside, or removed from the game, you may put it into your hand.
F: 0     D: 3     SV: 2     Unique
V5

Basically, you have a countably infinite number of Chain Multi actions that shuffle back, burn your opponent, replace themselves in your hand, and gives you an infinitely recurring TMF that can be reversed by, IIRC, exactly 3 cards in the game (Step, Excellence of Execution, Great Deal of Confusion TB). Mae is nigh impossible to finish off, and you will be playing for just this side of 9 decades to do it if you do.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 15, 2018, 11:28:19 AM
Just 8th tb

for Mae and Moolah, they're about average level and good for casual play, but the nature of what you want/need to execute with them is ssooo infuriating and will piss you off as opponent so bad you will want to punch them in the face by game's end....it's the best way I can describe it!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 11:38:12 AM
Hmmmm, dully noted. Never thought Mae was that hard to beat.

Anyone opposed to cutting the following?

Billy & Chuck
Hogan (non-TB)
Jeff Hardy
Johnny Nitro
Kaientai
Kevin Nash
Mae Young
MNM
Too Cool
Viscera
The Corre
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on March 15, 2018, 11:41:53 AM
I would be interested to see Nash, haven't seen a solid build for him personally. And why cut Too Cool? They haven't been making any waves really.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 11:44:56 AM
I would be interested to see Nash, haven't seen a solid build for him personally. And why cut Too Cool? They haven't been making any waves really.

My thoughts exactly. Every time I think of building Too Cool I wonder why I'm not building Rikishi or Scotty instead.

Nash seems decent on paper but I've yet to see anything solid for him; I'm intrigued to see someone make something of him.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: dilbert505 on March 15, 2018, 11:48:38 AM
I was kind of iffy on adding Billy and Chuck to my list anyway, and we've discussed Mae, but I don't entirely know why Pimpin's objecting to the rest of the names on his list. As far as I can tell, none of them are strong builds, they don't see much high level play, and there are people who do what they do better. They all feel like exactly the kind of deck that belongs in this type of tournament. I'm open to hearing arguments about why they're too good, though.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: BigPimpin on March 15, 2018, 11:51:10 AM
I would be interested to see Nash, haven't seen a solid build for him personally. And why cut Too Cool? They haven't been making any waves really.

My thoughts exactly. Every time I think of building Too Cool I wonder why I'm not building Rikishi or Scotty instead.

Nash seems decent on paper but I've yet to see anything solid for him; I'm intrigued to see someone make something of him.

Too Cool, yes, is a slightly lesser Rikishi, but they get Tag support and you'll be surprised at the number of good two-words maneuvers there are.

As to Nash, I've played him enough to know he's good.  He was an eyelash away from being my pick for Worlds the year I went to Gencon
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 12:10:38 PM
Billy & Chuck
Hogan (non-TB)
Jeff Hardy
Johnny Nitro
Kaientai
Kevin Nash
MNM
Too Cool

If we take Nash and Too Cool off the list should we cut the rest of his suggestions also? I can see an argument for Hogan, Hardy and Nitro.

Viscera should be cut from the list, he's a strong deck, just not seen often. Same could be said for The Corre.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Jokerfish on March 15, 2018, 12:37:15 PM
The way I will approach this is will this superstar wipe out 80% of the current field easily. These are the people I would add
The Mega Powers
the Dudley family
The Usos
The Heartbreak kid TB
Team x-treme
Michael cole
Vickie guerrero
teddy long
AJ Lee
Eve
Sid
ken kennedy
Seth Rollins(as discussed in other threads not good enough for the level of real life. new cards help but is still kinda low)
Brie bella TB
The Bella Twins
Tazz
Leader of the edge army (Good midmatch reversal. but still barely low mid tier. is not rolling anyone in this field)
Chavo


one's i'd get off the list
Kozlov( I watched Dooshebag go undefeated on lackey with kozlov for a year it seemed like.)
Scott Hall is a reversal beast. I'd play him over razor any day of the week. and that was before his new cards
Kenny is usually the 3rd best  spirit squad solo ss behind nicky and johnny. only  mikey and/or mitch should be on this list

Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Jokerfish on March 15, 2018, 12:42:16 PM
Jeff Hardy does need to go I would run the table with Jeff.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 12:48:38 PM
The Mega Powers: Really? I can't see them being on this list, honestly.

 
the Dudley family: Maybe? They are gimmicky, sure but man there's potential.

The Usos: I'm building them right now, they have an excellent card flow. What's their weakness?

The Heartbreak kid TB: I can see this one, actually.

Team x-treme: Never played them

Michael cole: I agree, I'd rather use the enforcer

Vickie guerrero: I can see this one also

teddy long: a thousand times no, he's way good!

AJ Lee: Man, I'm lost here. She seems so great

Eve: Really?!

Sid: Uhhh....I can't see this at all.

ken kennedy: Sure, we can add him.

Seth Rollins: same as above


Brie bella TB: No idea, never played as or against her

The Bella Twins: see above

Tazz: No way, Tazz is a beast (imo)

Leader of the edge army: I hear ya but Edge's card pool is insane!

Chavo: I beg to differ but perhaps that's just me
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 12:55:13 PM
Okay, new list:

Okay so we have:

"Bad" Superstars Tournament Suggestons:

Bam Bam Bigelow
Brie Bella TB
Brodus Clay
Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake
Buh-Buh Ray Dudley
Chavo Guerrero
Darren Young
David Otunga
Dean Malenko
Demolition
D-Von Dudley
Eric Rowan
Evan Bourne
Festus
Funaki
Goldust
Hacksaw Jim Duggan
Heidenreich
Irwin R. Schyster
Jack Swagger
Jerry Lawler
Justin Gabriel
Ken Kennedy
Lance Storm
Leader of the Edge Army
Lex Luger
Maryse
Michael Cole
Michael Tarver
Mikey
Mitch
Nikolai Volkoff
Norman Smiley
Prime Time Players
Raven
Rene Dupree
Rowdy Roddy Piper
R-Truth
Sami Zayn
Santino Marella
Seth Rollins
Sin Cara
Skip Sheffield
Stevie Richards
Team Hell No
The Bella Twins
The Corre
The Dangerous Alliance
The Heartbreak Kid TB
The King of Kings (Throwback)
The Rockers
The Steiner Brothers
Titus O'Neil
Vickie Guerrero
Yokozuna
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: rated SRH on March 15, 2018, 01:53:37 PM
Cole? The same Cole who has won
Worlds and was in the top 4 of this recent Worlds?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 15, 2018, 03:27:58 PM
I guess LotEA is better in AA....but still....he's kinda good
Cole deserves be nowhere near this list....

though shame on me for not demanding the damned Sexy Beast on this list....he's TERRIBLE!!!!!

Kennedy is damned good too with his "One Man Band" plus DaB
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 03:39:33 PM
I only added Cole and Kennedy per suggestion, they can be removed of course
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 15, 2018, 03:40:39 PM
Bam Bam Bigelow
Brie Bella TB
Brodus Clay
Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake
Buh-Buh Ray Dudley
Chavo Guerrero
Darren Young
David Otunga
Dean Malenko
Demolition
D-Von Dudley
Eric Rowan
Evan Bourne
Festus
Funaki
Goldust
Hacksaw Jim Duggan
Heidenreich
Irwin R. Schyster
Jack Swagger
Jerry Lawler
Justin Gabriel
Lance Storm
Lex Luger
Maryse
Michael Tarver
Mikey
Mitch
Nikolai Volkoff
Norman Smiley
Prime Time Players
Raven
Rene Dupree
Rowdy Roddy Piper
R-Truth
Sami Zayn
Santino Marella
Seth Rollins
Sin Cara
Skip Sheffield
Stevie Richards
Team Hell No
The Bella Twins
The Corre
The Dangerous Alliance
The Heartbreak Kid TB
The King of Kings (Throwback)
The Rockers
The Sexy Beast
The Steiner Brothers
Titus O'Neil
Vickie Guerrero
Yokozuna
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on March 15, 2018, 05:23:07 PM
I'll suggest Edge and Christian, and Dudleyz.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 16, 2018, 08:20:43 AM
I'll suggest Edge and Christian, and Dudleyz.

I can MAYBE see Dudleyz (but come on the virtual support is awesome) but E&C? No way Jose.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 16, 2018, 08:23:56 AM
dudleys get a free chain lashing tb that they can search for, they in no way belong on this list

the family maybe
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: dilbert505 on March 16, 2018, 08:32:20 AM
I'll suggest Edge and Christian, and Dudleyz.

I can MAYBE see Dudleyz (but come on the virtual support is awesome) but E&C? No way Jose.

I can't countenance the addition of anyone who, with a careful setup, gets to throw an unrespondable Kitchen Sink on turn 1 to this list.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 16, 2018, 09:22:06 AM
I'll suggest Edge and Christian, and Dudleyz.

I can MAYBE see Dudleyz (but come on the virtual support is awesome) but E&C? No way Jose.

I can't countenance the addition of anyone who, with a careful setup, gets to throw an unrespondable Kitchen Sink on turn 1 to this list.

Agreed!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on March 16, 2018, 04:33:08 PM
Ok I am out of ideas then haha.  The list seems good.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: DebuRaito on March 16, 2018, 05:36:29 PM
How can there be no Billy Gunn on this list? 😒
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 16, 2018, 06:04:49 PM
How can there be no Billy Gunn on this list? 😒

Billy Gunn is a Bada$$, not a bad deck.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Jokerfish on March 16, 2018, 06:09:18 PM
has some good cards but he is not good
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 16, 2018, 06:13:47 PM
3 Permanent Luck of the Draws is nothing to sneeze at.....
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on March 16, 2018, 08:07:17 PM
3 Permanent Luck of the Draws is nothing to sneeze at.....

That, with his ability, you could almost use every damn turn
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on March 16, 2018, 08:40:30 PM
3 Permanent Luck of the Draws is nothing to sneeze at.....

That, with his ability, you could almost use every damn turn


Yea I built a Billy Gunn around that it recovered for a looong time and never ran out of dynamics.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: riothebeast on March 16, 2018, 10:45:28 PM
Wait demolition is considered bad? I tore it up at locals with them. Seemed very playable to me.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on March 16, 2018, 11:19:09 PM
Replace demolition with Usos maybe?
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 17, 2018, 05:07:13 AM
Replace demolition with Usos maybe?

I still think they both kinda suck actually  :laugh: :laugh:

the ONLY way I made the Uso's sorta useful was in AA as a BASH deck with the revo tag moves
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on March 17, 2018, 06:36:58 AM
I'd keep Billy off of the list.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: riothebeast on March 17, 2018, 07:09:22 AM
I like moves that require 3 reversals lol.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: DebuRaito on March 17, 2018, 07:28:02 AM
Wow! Just saw Goldust and don't think he deserves to be on the list at all! A straight forward chain deck that open up with flawless/ankle lock tb is punishing!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: rated SRH on March 17, 2018, 07:43:09 AM
I don't see a lot of people being able to agree to this format haha.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Naitchng on March 17, 2018, 07:43:49 AM
Lols the list is kind of weird. How is golddust, the corre, in the list? Probably at least half of the list shld be considered mid tier and except a few most are still playable but just not tournament decks, bad is just a extreme word to use. Some ss becomes bad becos of new shenanigans or erranta e.g. Malenko(no idea y they nerf 1000 holds & ring psychology leg combo) , last outlaw and steamboat, ride rude(dunno y not on list). As for billy gun, the standard age old dynamic build honestly isn't always gd since tco have discourage sponge decks with the current meta. (E.g if opp have win cons, oswm tb, hiac if unblankable)  Honestly ss like beefcake after erranta is very playable. (irreversible collegiate champ)  Bad is just a wrong word. Change it to fun decks instead.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 17, 2018, 04:30:45 PM
Lols the list is kind of weird. How is golddust, the corre, in the list? Probably at least half of the list shld be considered mid tier and except a few most are still playable but just not tournament decks, bad is just a extreme word to use. Some ss becomes bad becos of new shenanigans or erranta e.g. Malenko(no idea y they nerf 1000 holds & ring psychology leg combo) , last outlaw and steamboat, ride rude(dunno y not on list). As for billy gun, the standard age old dynamic build honestly isn't always gd since tco have discourage sponge decks with the current meta. (E.g if opp have win cons, oswm tb, hiac if unblankable)  Honestly ss like beefcake after erranta is very playable. (irreversible collegiate champ)  Bad is just a wrong word. Change it to fun decks instead.

I'm TOTALLY open for suggestions. Goldie and The Corre can easily come off the list, no problem, as can Demolition. I can't see putting the Usos on it though.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 17, 2018, 04:32:29 PM
Taking off Corre, Demolition, Goldie and Beefcake (because his new cards are fantastic)

Who else should we cut?

Bam Bam Bigelow
Brie Bella TB
Brodus Clay
Buh-Buh Ray Dudley
Chavo Guerrero
Darren Young
David Otunga
Dean Malenko
D-Von Dudley
Eric Rowan
Evan Bourne
Festus
Funaki
Hacksaw Jim Duggan
Heidenreich
Irwin R. Schyster
Jack Swagger
Jerry Lawler
Justin Gabriel
Lance Storm
Lex Luger
Maryse
Michael Tarver
Mikey
Mitch
Nikolai Volkoff
Norman Smiley
Prime Time Players
Raven
Rene Dupree
Rowdy Roddy Piper
R-Truth
Sami Zayn
Santino Marella
Seth Rollins
Sin Cara
Skip Sheffield
Stevie Richards
Team Hell No
The Bella Twins
The Dangerous Alliance
The Heartbreak Kid TB
The King of Kings (Throwback)
The Rockers
The Sexy Beast
The Steiner Brothers
Titus O'Neil
Vickie Guerrero
Yokozuna
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on March 17, 2018, 04:38:37 PM
Looks fine, but it does depend on format. If VC is the choice, fine...but some superstars shine in certain formats. I'd say Darren Young for example is actually pretty good in nXt
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 17, 2018, 05:01:25 PM
VC is the choice


but you know what would be AWESOME....those LAST FOUR GAMES GET DONE THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on March 17, 2018, 05:37:29 PM
I'll be on or able to the rest of tonight and tomorrow
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on March 17, 2018, 06:21:35 PM
I beat JohnP via he let me have the win.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Jokerfish on March 17, 2018, 08:23:32 PM
who are we waiting on
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 18, 2018, 05:14:01 AM
niccckkkk vs Drywall
matthardynotdie vs Tutoman
Jokerfish vs lotjx
Lou vs Dizzy

Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on March 18, 2018, 10:39:31 AM
Taking off Corre, Demolition, Goldie and Beefcake (because his new cards are fantastic)

Who else should we cut?

Bam Bam Bigelow
Brie Bella TB
Brodus Clay
Buh-Buh Ray Dudley
Chavo Guerrero
Darren Young
David Otunga
Dean Malenko
D-Von Dudley
Eric Rowan
Evan Bourne
Festus
Funaki
Hacksaw Jim Duggan
Heidenreich
Irwin R. Schyster
Jack Swagger
Jerry Lawler
Justin Gabriel
Lance Storm
Lex Luger
Maryse
Michael Tarver
Mikey
Mitch
Nikolai Volkoff
Norman Smiley
Prime Time Players
Raven
Rene Dupree
Rowdy Roddy Piper
R-Truth
Sami Zayn
Santino Marella
Seth Rollins
Sin Cara
Skip Sheffield
Stevie Richards
Team Hell No
The Bella Twins
The Dangerous Alliance
The Heartbreak Kid TB
The King of Kings (Throwback)
The Rockers
The Sexy Beast
The Steiner Brothers
Titus O'Neil
Vickie Guerrero
Yokozuna

Seems fine to me.  I wonder if we end up finding an unexpected powerhouse deck.  Most of these decks I wouldn't have even considered building.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 19, 2018, 02:57:24 PM
looks like I'm dishing out some "no contests" after yoga tonight....  8)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on March 19, 2018, 04:24:58 PM
Im gonna be on the rest of tonight to try and get ours in, not sure tho
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 19, 2018, 08:30:42 PM
I know this is a lot to ask but can we have an extension to thursday morning? I REALLY want to play but real life keeps getting in my damn way.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 20, 2018, 05:13:46 AM
I know this is a lot to ask but can we have an extension to thursday morning? I REALLY want to play but real life keeps getting in my damn way.

I'm crunching the numbers and the playoff scenarios.....if I see that you're in regardless I might just move us along to the playoff round (I'm looking at a top 6 right now)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on March 22, 2018, 09:15:34 AM
I'd add HHH (I mean he doesn't even have an ability!) and The Game both have just awful, awful cards!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 22, 2018, 09:28:58 AM
I'd add HHH (I mean he doesn't even have an ability!) and The Game both have just awful, awful cards!

HHH has great stats and Cerebral as a back-up....and yeah the Game is a top-end deck....go read his backstage card  :o :o
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: skudz on March 22, 2018, 09:55:21 AM
I'd add HHH (I mean he doesn't even have an ability!) and The Game both have just awful, awful cards!

HHH has great stats and Cerebral as a back-up....and yeah the Game is a top-end deck....go read his backstage card  :o :o

I know he is my best deck ;)
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Jokerfish on March 22, 2018, 01:40:15 PM
so crasher what is the cut
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on March 22, 2018, 03:08:03 PM
I tried to get my game going by this morning but man, my whole house has been sick and work has been work. If me taking a loss is what's required I understand, I still want to play if I make the cut though
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: niiiiick on March 22, 2018, 05:36:05 PM
I tried to get my game going by this morning but man, my whole house has been sick and work has been work. If me taking a loss is what's required I understand, I still want to play if I make the cut though

If you can find a way on tonight, I can in about an hour
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 23, 2018, 05:04:43 AM
Well....we waited long enough, eh?

We cut to a top 6 and here it is:

1. Nicccckkkkkk
2. Mitch
3. Matthardynotdie
4. Helda
5. Brian
6. Joker

So two games to a gettin' to here:

Matthardynotdie vs Joker
Helda vs Brian

have fun kids!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Jokerfish on March 30, 2018, 03:46:33 PM
sice no one seems to be doing anything. i'll update my match matt won by co
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on March 30, 2018, 04:28:27 PM
sice no one seems to be doing anything. i'll update my match matt won by co

the right people were discussing their next round games on Discord actually....so it seemed redundant

so it's now Niicccckkkkk and Heldaaaaaaa
Mitch and MHND

ooopss....Mitch already won and awaits in the Finals
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: killercactus on April 01, 2018, 06:02:19 AM
Cool that there''s a tournament going on!!    I didn't even realize people were playing this on Lackey - been gone for a while.

Is there still a way to get the plugin for Raw Deal?  Link here says its gone as of 3/22...
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on April 01, 2018, 07:42:40 AM
Lackey download:
http://www.teamcanadaonline.net/index.php/topic,12440.0.html

Tips on using Lackey:
http://teamcanadaonline.net///index.php/topic,12631.0.html
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: killercactus on April 01, 2018, 09:22:40 AM
That's what I tried - does it only work for pc maybe?  I tried it on iPad and the plugin won't load
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on April 01, 2018, 02:32:58 PM
Ipad is a different realm, and since I own a total of 0 Apple devices I sadly cannot help you there. I heard someone in Discord had an issue with using with ipad as well so it may not work on an ipad but I know people have used it on mac and pc.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: CRASHER on April 01, 2018, 03:10:06 PM
I think (and this is only a guess) is that it won't work on an i-pad because I know anytime (even by accident) I've used a touch screen in a lackey game the app instantly crashes......
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: killercactus on April 01, 2018, 09:03:30 PM
Got it working on PC today.  Thanks guys!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on April 03, 2018, 07:14:07 AM
Lackey will not work on ipad at the moment. Last comment on this from the creator was in January saying he's been busy raising his kids. Basically what I'm saying is that it's not compatible and hasn't been compatible with the last two versions of iOS.

I find weird irony that the free version I've used for years works fine but in October I bought an expensive ipad (there is no version for android OS) and paid for Lackey ($5.99 I believe) and I haven't been able to play for months.

CURSE YOU, FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Eric RD on April 03, 2018, 09:59:14 PM
Got it working on PC today.  Thanks guys!

I found a way to get it working on the iPad if you're still interested in getting it to work there.
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Drywall on April 04, 2018, 07:46:58 AM
Got it working on PC today.  Thanks guys!

I found a way to get it working on the iPad if you're still interested in getting it to work there.

Do tell!
Title: Re: TCO Lackey Tournament #12!
Post by: Mitch! on April 11, 2018, 06:07:47 AM
Bray Wyatt wins it all. On to #13!